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chriswatson posted 05-28-2001 05:45 PM ET (US)   Profile for chriswatson   Send Email to chriswatson  
I need help in deciding which model Whaler to buy. I am considering either a Montaug 17 or an Outrage 18. My usage areas will be in open ocean and shallow salt ponds. I realize that you take quite a pounding with the Montaug in rough water, but I don't know about the ride of the Outrage 18.

A secondary question is which make of outboard motor is the best bet. I have owned both Johnson (some problems) and Yamaha (no problems). What about Mercury?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

carlz posted 05-28-2001 07:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for carlz  Send Email to carlz     
When I was about to buy my 17' hull some years ago someone suggested I might want the 18' outrage. He was right. The montauk is just terrible in a chop, with the front seat passengers getting pounded silly at anything over 2500 rpm on my Yamaha 90. In still waters it is a dream, but those are hard to find. If your car is big enough to pull it and your wallet fat enough to buy it, get a bigger boat.
Peter posted 05-28-2001 09:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
The Outrage 18 will always have my vote over the Montauk for many reasons. I think several here will tell you that its the most versatile hull Whaler ever made. I just sold mine to a former Montauk owner who said he loved his Montauk -- until I took him and two of his kids for a ride in the Outrage in a two foot chop at 25 mph. Not only was he impressed with the ride, but he and his two kids were absolutely amazed at the fact that none of them had a drop of water on them. Hope that little testimonial helps.
alan posted 06-01-2001 01:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for alan  Send Email to alan     
I owned a Montauk for fifteen years and then for the last four an 18'6" Outrage - totally different boats. The Montauk is great fun, easy on petrol,skiing, fishing been out 15 miles on a nice day, etc. just a great all around boat, but really it is a surfboard on the water. The Outrage is a real boat, cuts through small chop, handles like a caddy, stable, you can actually fit a Montauk in a Outrage- it's that much of a difference. If your in the ocean a lot go for the Outrage.
alan posted 06-01-2001 01:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for alan  Send Email to alan     
I owned a Montauk for fifteen years and then for the last four an 18'6" Outrage - totally different boats. The Montauk is great fun, easy on petrol,skiing, fishing been out 15 miles on a nice day, etc. just a great all around boat, but really it is a surfboard on the water. The Outrage is a real boat, cuts through small chop, handles like a caddy, stable, you can actually fit a Montauk in a Outrage- it's that much of a difference. If your in the ocean a lot go for the Outrage.
BD posted 06-02-2001 01:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for BD  Send Email to BD     
I'll ad a vote for the Outrage. But I have to say, my nostalgia goes with the Montauk. I can remember tuna fishing on the outer basks off a Montauk with harpoons as a kid, and even with the pouning, it was the most fun fishing of my life. Unless you are always out alone, in which case the ride is acceptable at the helm, I'd go for the Outrage ride...
lhg posted 06-02-2001 01:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
We all know, they're both great boats. It's just a matter of how large a boat you want to handle and spend money for. The Outrage 18 is a foot wider, and two feet longer, which makes for a LOT more boat.

But I was just thinking. Fortunately, the Montauk is still being made, and filling that need. It is really a shame the 18 Outrage is not, because this is a void in Whaler's line that has never been filled. Most of the other classic Whalers at least have a replacement, but not the 18 Outrage. It is unique. The current 18 Dauntless can't hold a candle to it, and doesn't even pretend to, and there is nothing else. The short lived new 18 Outrage had bad proportions, and didn't make it either.

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