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ledfoot posted 05-31-2001 12:41 PM ET (US)
I am looking at 2 20' Outrages this weekend. One is an '85, one is a '78. Are there any major differences between the two? Anything specific I should watch out for? Can anyone relate any good or bad experiences with these boats? Finally, would a 22' give me a significantly better ride??
Thanks!
lhg posted 05-31-2001 12:49 PM ET (US)
Get the 1985 model, which was it's first year and is basically a shortened-at-the-transom 22. Otherwise same mold.
Would not recommend the early 20' model, as it suffered from a too shallow vee, and inadequate transom angle, particularly for OMC engines of the same vintage. For some reason these boats tend to change hands often.
The 1985 will be a much softer riding boat.
Whaler4me posted 05-31-2001 04:28 PM ET (US)
I have a 1977 19' outrage, which is the model I think you were looking at, and I love the boat. It is perfect for fishing, diving, and just a good boat.
As for the ride, I have no experience with the '85, but I always thought mine rode well.
Just my two cents.
David Gilliland posted 05-31-2001 10:21 PM ET (US)
I have a 79 model 20' Outrage with a 79 175 Johnson I have owned since 91. I could sell it for what I paid for it. How much more is the 85? Does the 78 have a newer motor? Price for me would matter and the 22 should be a better ride.
maverick posted 06-01-2001 07:37 AM ET (US)
The 85 18.5 has an excellent, dry ride (I have one and have 2 17 Montauks - also a great boat but a bit choppy on these old knees, the 17 is). My brother has an early 80s 22' Outrage, and rides better and as dry as my 18, but costs more, burns more fuel, is a little more to pull, and usually costs a little more than the 18. I have a good friend with a 1981 20' Outrage; also good boat with twin 90s, no apparent difference in ride between the 20 and the 18.6 that I can tell except that the 20 w/twins rides a little higher in the front. Just depends on one thing: How much CASH are you willing to spend? If you have about $10k, a 17 - it is quite unlikely you'll find an 18 or larger for 10k unless the motor is old and tired. My 18.6 with agile and fairly new motor would cost you $15k. I've seen the older 70s models for sale from time to time over the years, and while they appear to be good seaworthy boats, the demand for them seems to be less than the newer Commercial Products design (like mine, the 20, and the 22)..basically same hull mold - correct me if I'm wrong experts out here, but I don't think so). Best, Mav

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Author	Topic: buying a 20' Outrage-help!
ledfoot	posted 05-31-2001 12:41 PM ET (US) I am looking at 2 20' Outrages this weekend. One is an '85, one is a '78. Are there any major differences between the two? Anything specific I should watch out for? Can anyone relate any good or bad experiences with these boats? Finally, would a 22' give me a significantly better ride?? Thanks!
lhg	posted 05-31-2001 12:49 PM ET (US) Get the 1985 model, which was it's first year and is basically a shortened-at-the-transom 22. Otherwise same mold. Would not recommend the early 20' model, as it suffered from a too shallow vee, and inadequate transom angle, particularly for OMC engines of the same vintage. For some reason these boats tend to change hands often. The 1985 will be a much softer riding boat.
Whaler4me	posted 05-31-2001 04:28 PM ET (US) I have a 1977 19' outrage, which is the model I think you were looking at, and I love the boat. It is perfect for fishing, diving, and just a good boat. As for the ride, I have no experience with the '85, but I always thought mine rode well. Just my two cents.
David Gilliland	posted 05-31-2001 10:21 PM ET (US) I have a 79 model 20' Outrage with a 79 175 Johnson I have owned since 91. I could sell it for what I paid for it. How much more is the 85? Does the 78 have a newer motor? Price for me would matter and the 22 should be a better ride.
maverick	posted 06-01-2001 07:37 AM ET (US) The 85 18.5 has an excellent, dry ride (I have one and have 2 17 Montauks - also a great boat but a bit choppy on these old knees, the 17 is). My brother has an early 80s 22' Outrage, and rides better and as dry as my 18, but costs more, burns more fuel, is a little more to pull, and usually costs a little more than the 18. I have a good friend with a 1981 20' Outrage; also good boat with twin 90s, no apparent difference in ride between the 20 and the 18.6 that I can tell except that the 20 w/twins rides a little higher in the front. Just depends on one thing: How much CASH are you willing to spend? If you have about $10k, a 17 - it is quite unlikely you'll find an 18 or larger for 10k unless the motor is old and tired. My 18.6 with agile and fairly new motor would cost you $15k. I've seen the older 70s models for sale from time to time over the years, and while they appear to be good seaworthy boats, the demand for them seems to be less than the newer Commercial Products design (like mine, the 20, and the 22)..basically same hull mold - correct me if I'm wrong experts out here, but I don't think so). Best, Mav