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roger8918 posted 06-01-2001 02:45 PM ET (US)   Profile for roger8918   Send Email to roger8918  
Finally, after searching for more than two years I just purchased my first Whaler. She’s a ’86 Montauk with a 90hp Evinrude in excellent condition. I bought it from a very nice older gentleman who did not use it enough to justify keeping her. I have had other boats in the past but I have drooled over the Whalers for years, so much so I sold my previous boat two years ago so I would have the cash available when that special Whaler came along. By the way, I was the first and only one to look at the boat. I have read in a previous post that seems to be a common occurrence. Well enough of that I do have a question. With the boat I received some very nice original canvas (at least I believe them to be original they where made by Mills) a seat cover, console cover and a bimini top. My problem is on the bimini top there are two cords attached to the under side of the center support that are adjustable, approximately 4’ in length and equipped with a brass clip on the end. Everything seems to fit properly when installed but I just cannot figure out what the cords need to attach to. The man I purchased the boat from said he tried the top once and didn’t like it so he never used it and cannot help me with my problem. Any information would be greatly appreciated and thanks for letting a new Whaler owner run on.

PS. This boat is going to make my three Little People (ages 8, 7, and 5) the happiest kids in the world. My 8 year old could have killed me for selling the old boat two years ago but I made it clear to him that it would be worth the wait

hauptjm posted 06-01-2001 03:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
A possibility: center stabilizing cords. Alot of boaters (I'm installing some this summer) use these to keep the top from "shimmying" from side to side when underway at speed. Usually, they attach at the console on the grab rails. Check out the pictures of lhg's Outrages in the Cetacea section. Personally, I'm going to use a stainless ring, whipped to the center of the top bar that crosses over the top of the windshield. The two straps will anchor at the outside of the center bimini cross member by the edge of the top and hook into the ring on a 45 degree angle. BTW, keep your speed to a low roar with the top up, or you wil damage the material and possibly the anchoring points on the gunnel. I usually keep it around 30 mph.
Peter posted 06-01-2001 03:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
The cords are the center stabilizing cords. The brass clips attach to an eye which is supposed to be pop rivited into the tee at the top of the console railing. Whipping a stainless ring to the tee should work, but you might want to call or contact Mills ( for a copy of their installation instructions. I installed a Mills top on my Outrage as instructed by Mills and never had any problems
blackdog posted 06-01-2001 04:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog  Send Email to blackdog     
I just e-mailed you a picture of the ss loop that my top hooks to. 2 straps come down from the front and hook in the middle.


lhg posted 06-01-2001 08:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
The cords you are referring to are DEFINITELY to stabilize the flying top, and are necessary. Mills/BW's initial instructions were, as mentioned, to pop rivit a strap eye to the "tee" fitting at the center of the console rail. But I discovered an easier solution, which I use on both of my boats. See current West Marine catalog, page 665, for Helm's rail mount strap eye, catalog # 594663. A pair costs $14 (only one is needed). This fitting screw/clamps on to the forward facing console rail, just in front of the tee fitting. This fitting works so well to hold the top straps, that I have thought about telling Mills about it.

All bimini syle tops should have these triangulating stabilizing straps, but I have noticed a lot of cheap designs that don't.

lhg posted 06-01-2001 08:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Jim Haupt is referring to the the 5th picture on page 11 of Cetacea.

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