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acassidy posted 06-12-2001 08:37 PM ET (US)   Profile for acassidy   Send Email to acassidy  
I am going to go look at a 1969 17 whaler this Sat that is 200 miles away (bringing the money). What are the things that I should look for in a hull this old. I want to restore it like I have seen with boats on this site. I am concerned a little though about the age. I know that these boat last. How do I check it out to make certain that it is in good shape for restoring. I have seen pictures on the site of mid-60s boats that look very good. What are key things to check for on this boat? BTW it has a 1990 Nissan 90 hp on it. Thanks for any comments. (This is a great site). Archie
Duncan posted 06-13-2001 09:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Duncan  Send Email to Duncan     
Make sure there is not any water inside the hull. Once it is in there it gets into the supposedly "closed cell" foam and will never fully be able to be drained. i have a 13 from 1969. It is pretty waterlogged, granted I got it cheap. Go back in the forum strings an you'll see it is fairly common with Whalers.
The Whaler Guy posted 06-13-2001 10:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for The Whaler Guy    
Remind me not to buy your waterlogged Whaler, It might sink!
acassidy posted 06-13-2001 10:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for acassidy  Send Email to acassidy     
Duncan, thanks. But how do you check to see if there is water in the hull?
whalerron posted 06-14-2001 12:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalerron  Send Email to whalerron     
I have a 1969 whaler so I am in the same boat as you if you buy this one ;)

Carefully check the outer hull for cracks and make sure you are comfortable with what cracks you see. I would expect there to be some minor spider cracks but I would worry about large cracks. Check the stern where the deck meets the transom. The older whalers were notorious for getting large cracks there that would let water into the hull interior. I understand that most older whalers have repairs in that area. I am willing to bet that the bow light no longer work unless someone has rerouted the wiring. You should expect this but there are some pretty ingenious ways to route new wires to the bow light.

Take a can of Kit Wax with you. It is straight Carnuba wax. That boat has a blue interior and I can almost guarantee you that it is badly oxidized. You can work a small area with the wax to see how much work it will take to clean up the blue.

Check all of the pieces of wood that hold the console in place. Unless the owner was diligent with his varnishing, you will have some wood to replace. You should also check all the screws that hold the rails in place and those that hold the console in place. Chances are that you will need to fill and redrill about 50% of these holes.

Also check the steering mechanism.

Other than major cracks, all of these things are fixable but you do need to decide whether or not you have the time to do the work. In the 69 vintage boats, I think the most common places to get water infiltration into the hull is through that deck-to-transom crack and also around the transom drain tube. if the crack is non existant or well repaired and if the drain tube seal looks ok, you can eliminate those 2 areas of concern.

I am curious to hear what you actually find out about this boat. How much is the owner asking for the boat?

The blue interior boats really do look exceptional when they have been well cared for.

Bigshot posted 06-18-2001 01:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Whalerron, If I ever have to repaint my 1990 montauk, I want to do the inside in blue for that retro look. Nothing nicer than new blue awlgrip on a whaler interior.
whalerron posted 06-18-2001 10:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalerron  Send Email to whalerron     
I have always liked that blue interior. It does a great job of cutting down the glare from the sun. When I go out on my brother's 74 whaler, which has the very light tan interior, I find I am always squinting because of the extra glare. I always wondered why Whaler stopped using blue on the insides.

- Ron

JFM posted 06-19-2001 08:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Archie,
Is this the boat in central KY.
What kind of condition is it in?
Thanks,
Jay

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