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Bennett posted 07-10-2001 02:48 AM ET (US)   Profile for Bennett  
I'm about to purchase a 1977 Boston Whaler Deep V Hull - the name is unknown. I was told that it was only made for 1 year. Also, it has a cuddy type front. Does anybody know why it was discontinued? Is it a safe boat?
Tsuriki BW posted 07-10-2001 06:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Sounds like it might be a '69 - 70 Menemsha.

Very rare.

(I would live to have one)

Tsuriki

Tsuriki BW posted 07-10-2001 06:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Without knowing the length that is about as close as I could come.

Still love them. What a design,

Tsuriki

dfmcintyre posted 07-10-2001 01:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
is it an outboard or sterndrive, in the 20-22 foot range?

Whaler made a Jim Wynn (I think) designed deep V hull, with a stern drive and cuddy. Don't think it had a Whaler sticker on it, and was called a Voyager (?).

Very, very rare

Bigshot posted 07-10-2001 02:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
What about the outrage cuddy with that little windshield? Looked like a speedster. Not as funny looking as the Menemsha which is not a deep-V.
dfmcintyre posted 07-11-2001 06:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
Ok Bennett, your going to have to divulge a little more info in order for us to dial this puppy in a little better...
JC posted 07-11-2001 09:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for JC  Send Email to JC     
I saw a Whaler with a deep V that looked like a Bertram Bahia Mar. Was that a Voyager
Bigshot posted 07-11-2001 10:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Guess Bennett does not care!
Translation posted 07-11-2001 10:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for Translation    
Yankee Voyager was the name of the deep v cuddy that whaler made. I have a Yankee Voyager brochure, I will check it to see what year it was printed.

That was the boat I thought of when I read bennett's post, but I figured no one ever heard of it!

Bennett posted 07-12-2001 03:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bennett    
It's at 21' Boston Whaler. It has a deep V Hull that runs all the way thru the stern. The front is covered up to a dual console with a one piece windshield/splash shield that is made of glass surrounded by a stainless steel border. There's a dry storage area in the bow, that could possibly sleep two. The stern has enough room for dual motors but doesn't have any seats and the battery compartment is in the deck, along with about a 55 gallon tank. There's a storage area under the gunwhales for poles or water skis, etc. The pilot console is on the right with a tachometer, compass, fuel gauge and temperature. The seller states that the hull was made in 1977 only. When you look at the hull of the boat, it looks like a trolling boat, unlike any boston whaler that I've seen. But upon close examination, you can tell that it's all Boston Whaler! It also has all the markings of a Boston. It has a 175 HP Johnston Outboard with a 25 HP Evenrude kicker.
jimh posted 07-12-2001 08:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
The Yankee Voyager 21 had I/O power, I think. At least the one I've seen did.

The Yankee Voyager is still in production, now made by Nauset Marine on Cape Cod.

--jimh

Bigshot posted 07-12-2001 08:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Sounds like a revenge but they did not have deep-v' in 77. Somebody have a catalog? I have a 78 and not in there except the revenge.
dfmcintyre posted 07-12-2001 09:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
Bennett -

By your description, I can't figure it out. It sounds _like_ a Voyager, but I've only heard of them coming out of the factory in an I/O version.

Send us some photos for Jim to publish!

Don

Translation posted 07-12-2001 10:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for Translation    
if "you look carefully and it must be a whaler" then it cant be a a Yankee Voyager, because the Yankee Voyager looks nothing like a whaler!

I will look at the Yankee Voyager brochure tonight to figure out if the descriptions match. The brochure has drawings but no photographs. I'll also figure out what year the brochure was printed....

andygere posted 07-12-2001 04:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
My '79 catalog shows a model called the V-22, which looks like an early version of the Outrage 22. Is it possible they made a few cuddy models on this hull?
james cosby posted 07-12-2001 05:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for james cosby  Send Email to james cosby     
Does it look like this 77' 21' Revenge with outboard? Good Luck JC

http://yachtworld.com/listing/yw_listing_detail.jsp?checked_boats=888640¤cy=USD&units=Feet

james cosby posted 07-12-2001 05:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for james cosby  Send Email to james cosby     
I don't think the address will copy to your browser. It's at yachtworld.com . Do a BW search and you can check it out. Sorry JC
lhg posted 07-12-2001 06:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Soundsl like Bennett is describing a 21 Revenge. My 1977 catalog shows nothing else that it could be. The description of the deep v is what's confusing everybody. Bennett, look at the photo log in the Cetacea section, for either a 21 Revenge or a 21 Outrage, and see if they look familiar.

If it is a 21 Classic Revenge, your seller is giving you wrong information. The boat was made from 1975-1979, I think.

Translation posted 07-12-2001 08:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Translation    
Also, the Revenge 21 only had 40 gallons of fuel capacity - a big difference from 55 so beware! The Yankee Voyager, for those who care, also had 40 gals.

The windshield on the Yankee Voyager is more like what Bennett is describing in his last post - one piece glass, wrapped around (got the 4 page ad in front of me) while the Revenge always had a three piece windshield.

A mystery!

dfmcintyre posted 07-12-2001 08:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
There _is_ some similar line lofting along the lip of the windshield, and the windshield looks like it came from the same designer that they used in the early 80's revenge and outrage cuddy cabin series.

And the color of gelcoat was the same, along with the non-skid in areas.

Larry - Note that in one of Bennett's posts he mentioned that the 'V' extended all the way to the stern.

Don
Don

Bigshot posted 07-12-2001 08:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
I am puzzled too, especially the windshield. I had a 74 19' so I assume they made the 21 then too.
Tom W Clark posted 07-13-2001 02:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
I suspect Bennett is describing the Yankee Voyager. This boat never appeared in any Whaler catalog so you can stop looking there. It was Whaler's first attempt to builld a deep-V hull and prototypes were made starting in 1974 or 1975. It was designed by Raymond Hunt who helped Dick Fisher design the first Boston Whaler. Hunt also designed the first deep-V hull which was the prototype for the Bertram 31.

Only about 30 Voyagers were built by Whaler.

Dick posted 07-13-2001 08:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
The Boston Whaler history I have lists the following under 21' outboard models.
V21 Yankee Voyger(molds bought from HILI???) 1975 28 hull built and sold to Nauset Marine.
Dick
Tom W Clark posted 07-13-2001 10:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Dick,

The Voyager mold was bought from Highliner Boats in New Hampshire. Nausett Marine now has it. The boat they produce from it is now called the "Nausett Islander"

Bigshot posted 07-13-2001 10:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Oh man Now I remember. My dad's friend had a highliner with an I/o. hey were bought out by BW in mid 70's but I never saw a whaler logo on one. I also thought this was in I/O form only. They kinda look like a Moppie with a high windshied deck if that is a good description. They had green windshields and a black bertram like stripe. as only a kid but remember his boat.
Translation posted 07-13-2001 10:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for Translation    
This is a great thread!

Anyway the Yankee Voyager was only avail in a single i/o in the literature I have from 1975.

I guess if its a hull that old, it could have been reconfigured....plus if it was built by multiple companies through those years, maybe it was indeed built as an o/b but not by Whaler...

Question for the experts: was the Yankee Voyager built the same way a whaler was/is ("one piece")? Or was it built like a regular boat....separate skins and stingers?

Bigshot posted 07-13-2001 10:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
seperate as far as I remember, my dad's friends sunk.
Bennett posted 07-14-2001 02:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bennett    
Thank you for all your wonderful responses. I contacted Boston Whaler and they told me that the hull was made in 1975 and it was called the Yankee Voyager. It did come with a I/O motor and the owner changed to an outboard. Also, Boston Whaler told me that only 26 were produced. It was discontinued because it did not fit the Boston trademark by being fully foam filled. I don't know about the unsinkability, but it sure is a nice boat and I bought it today! Thank you and I'll be back to talk some more. Aloha from Hawaii.
Tsuriki BW posted 07-14-2001 03:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Congratulations Bennet,

You have a unique Whaler!! Best of luck with it and send some pictures for Jim to post and all to see.

Tsuriki

Bennett posted 07-14-2001 04:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bennett    
Also about the fuel tank he extended it and also a 12 gal. reserve. Total:64 gal. It was made for a long day of fishing. Ill try and send pictures as soon as I get a scanner.
Bennett posted 07-14-2001 04:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bennett    
Thanks for the info on Nauset marine on cape cod. I'll find out what became of this boat.
Bennett posted 07-16-2001 12:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bennett    
How do I read the rest of the responses? It cuts off.
rsess1 posted 07-16-2001 10:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for rsess1  Send Email to rsess1     
I have the orignial 1 page brochure on this model. If you want copy, email me fax no>
Rsess@aol.com
jxs226 posted 07-17-2001 10:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for jxs226  Send Email to jxs226     
I believe this article contains a picture of a Yankee Voyager.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1166025443

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