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CIELO3428 posted 07-10-2001 05:50 PM ET (US)   Profile for CIELO3428   Send Email to CIELO3428  
anyone seen a 13 done as a center
console? any plans or kits
available? thoughts on the
subject?
Clark Roberts posted 07-10-2001 06:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
I have modified several 13'3" Whalers with stand-up center consoles and what a blast to drive... the shock of waves is dampened by knees when standing and boat can be steered by simply shifting weight from one foot to the other... a good, substantial grab rail is recommended. On one of the boats I made a cable trough in the deck ... others were the pre-1973 models with the uneven deck which can be covered for cable-way.. On one I passed the cables to starboard over deck and covered with a piece of channel fiberglas (this one was a "toe-knocker).. Go for it ... you will love it!! Clark.. Spruce Creek Navy
CIELO3428 posted 07-10-2001 08:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for CIELO3428  Send Email to CIELO3428     
SPRUCE CREEK NAVY, THANKS FOR
THE QUICK REPLY. THE 13 I WILL
USE FOR THIS PROJECT IS A 64
AND HAS THE UNEVEN DECK. WHERE
IN RELATION TO FORWARD SEAT
(sport model) DID YOU LOCATE
THE CONSOLE-HOW FASTENED TO
HULL=DID YOU USE OFF THE SHELF
LIKE CAROLINA SKIFF OR FABRICATE
FROM MAHOGANY ANY AND ALL DETAILS
APPRECIATED THANKS, CIELO3428
Clark Roberts posted 07-11-2001 06:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
Cielo, I used the stock "Carolina Skiff" stand-up Console without the front molded-in seat! Flange base simply screwed to deck at approx same fore/aft location as stock side console. Put a cooler in front and build a full width bench seat or use a pedestal seat and have a blast. Check out all the piece parts at Carolina Skiff dealer and you may find just what you need! I especially enjoyed the better vision ! See Cetacia page 28 to see a 15' that I still have with the center console modification we're discussing... this 15' with the stand-up console is so great that it's hard to discribe. I ran the "Everglades Wilderness Trail" from Everglades City to Flamingo and return (110 mi each way) with my last 13 CC (40 Merc) and it was great! Currently I have a 1974 Revenge 19 hull awaiting conversion to a Lo-Profile configuration... guess I'll never learn !!! Clark... The Old Man and the Sea
CIELO3428 posted 07-11-2001 05:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for CIELO3428  Send Email to CIELO3428     
CLARK;
THANKS FOR THE DETAILED INFO
GOING TO MEASURE-READ THE SKIFF
CATALOG AND ORDER THE PARTS.
lhg posted 07-11-2001 06:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Clark - Unrelated question: Could I run the entire "Wilderness route" in my 25 with radar arch? I have read that they recommend 18' boat max, but I've never run into anyone who has actually done the whole trip.
printjunky posted 07-11-2001 06:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for printjunky  Send Email to printjunky     
Just a thought re: running the cable abovedeck. Maybe use some of that heavy rubber cable channel used in offices that were built long before the world went digital. (Like where I am right now "working":)). Looks like it would stay put, and be less of a toe stubber due to the tapered profile. Some of it we have here looks quite heavy (black rubber) and looks like it would easily allow a good sized cable (or bunch) to be routed.
Shawn
Clark Roberts posted 07-11-2001 10:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
Larry, I think you could run the Wilderness Trail in your 25 provided that you get good tide data and begin your run with tide coming in! Also you must bypass the area called "the nightmare" and also Broad Creek... just jog out into Gulf no problem. If you do the above you will have no overhead problems and should have no water depth problems except on leaving Chokolouskee (sp?) where you will have to trim up for a short way. We stayed at Everglades City (Rod and Gun Club) and launched boats at public ramp in Chokolouskee and overnighted at Flamingo in Everglades Park... Flamingo Lodge (1-800-600-3813).. Ranger Station 941-695-3096..Ranger Station in Everglades City>941-695-3311.. Dispatcher for all park services>305-242-7700. Ranger will provide tide info for month of your planned trip and advise you of the charts you will need.. sorry I don't have a record at hand and used charts belonging to others otherwise I would just mail to you! There is a motel at the ramp in Chokoloskee (sp again?) called Outdoor Resorts (941-695-2881) and Rod and Gun Club in Everglades City (941-695-2101)..
It's a long trip with narrow creeks, open bays, fantastic rivers and the ever enjoyable jaunts out into the Gulf.. The Shark River and Whitewater Bay are unforgettable as is the solitude and raw nature. We took our trip (two 13 Whalers) in Feb. so weather was cool and mosquitoes (swamp angels) were not a problem.. a summertime trip would be hot and lots of mosquitoes... I would recommend the trip to all... no gas or facilities of any kind other than a couple of camp sites with port-a-johns... Clark.. The Old Man
PS> The trail is marked but markers are too far apart for visuals so you must follow chart shore features to make some of the markers.. and you must progress marker to marker... return would be easy if you have a GPS!
lhg posted 07-11-2001 10:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Clark - thanks for the valuable information. I have done the opposite of you, and many times have trailed into Flamingo, launched on the inside ramp, and run Whitewater Bay over to the Gulf, then down around the Capes back to Flamingo on the outside. Great trip- love the mangrove wilderness. But I've wanted to head up to Everglades City for an overnighter and back, and wondered if I could do it in the 25. I've been to Everglades City also, but that time on a run down from Naples. So the only section I've missed is the Wilderness Waterway from Whitewater Bay and up.

You're sure right about the mosquitos! Remember the old Kingston Trio song about the Everglades? "if the skeeters don't get you than the gators will".

I go down there only between Thanksgiving and the end of March! One time, in August, I had some time to kill and drove a rented car down to Flamingo just to see the sights again. I was surprised to see the place was empty in mid summer. I stepped out of the car and the mosquitos descended on me, literally. I jumped back in the car, and there were at least 50 of them in the car! I'll never do that again! (for those of you not familiar with FL, Flamingo is the southernmost point on the FL mainland, at the the southern edge of the Everglades.)

Clark Roberts posted 07-12-2001 07:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
Larry, there are several small creeks which connect larger bodies (bays etc) that are serpentine and narrow and you will most likely scrape mangroves as you turn! You may even have to pole and push a time or two! A good "push pole" is a necessity for us Florida "swampers" and any pole of 12-16' will do the trick! Your 18 would be the better boat for that trip of course. Clark,,, Spruce Creek Navy

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