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posted 07-17-2001 04:36 PM ET (US)
What binoculars does everyone use / Recommend?
posted 07-17-2001 04:52 PM ET (US)
You looking to hit them nude beaches down on the Jersey shore! If so, best get one of those "stabilized" Ziess kind -- yeah know the ones pro-"bird" watchers use --- heh heh -- if your in your rock and roll Dauntless that is :)Z
posted 07-17-2001 05:27 PM ET (US)
Gotta do my part to prevent skin cancer!
posted 07-17-2001 07:19 PM ET (US)
I use a gift from my wife, a pair of east german border guard binocs. 7x40?.
posted 07-17-2001 07:37 PM ET (US)
I have a pair of small (10x28) Orion Otters.
I'd hunted high and low for a pair of small
binocs that were waterproof with no luck,
and the Admiral Linda found these at the
Orion store which is about four blocks from
[Link to Orion]
There are lots of 7x50 waterproofs. I've
posted 07-17-2001 07:46 PM ET (US)
I got a pair of Fujinon 7 x 50 WPC-XL. Waterproff, lighted compass (backup) and range finder. Very good optics, though a bit large.
posted 07-17-2001 08:00 PM ET (US)
I guess it's about time to update mine. I am still using a pair of 7X35 Montgomery Wards, non waterproof. That I bought for hunting in 1964 while living in Tucson. After allmost 40 years they look a little used but they still work.
posted 07-17-2001 08:46 PM ET (US)
I've got a pair of yellow, waterproof, rose tinted uv coated 7x50 that I think are made by Siebold. Came with a floating strap, lens caps, eye caps, compass, and yellow case -- from boaters world or somewhere -- all for 99.00 no tax and free shipping. As Tony the Tiger would say, "They're great!" Bless the internet!
posted 07-17-2001 08:58 PM ET (US)
I got the same Seabold set as well. If and when (far down the road) I get an offshore boat I think some Nikons, Steiners,Canons would be in order. Good binocs are safety feature as well as being useful for spying on other anglers. the better ones will do a better job of cutting through haze.
But for a small inshore boat the Seabolds I have work just great. they were a perfect rplacement for the Tasocs that my wife gave me for Christmas one year and then "stole" for bird watching.
posted 07-17-2001 11:06 PM ET (US)
I reserve the good optics for hunting rifles.
Remember they could easily end up overboard and all that money spent on "waterproof" binoculars is on the bottom in fifty feet of water.
Go down to WalMart and buy a $14.99 Tasco monocular. Then if it gets lost or busted you wont give a hoot.
posted 07-18-2001 02:36 AM ET (US)
I use an old ( 1960's )pair of Hensoldt 8X30 binoculars. They are surplus NATO glasses,and are amazingly good for anything from game spotting to stargazing. It seems to me that real world use of binoculars is usually limited by factors other than the resolution testing done by consumer testing organizations. Whatever I need to look at is always close the sun on the horizon, and internal baffling of light reflections counts for far more than reading the newspaper at 50 ft. in a laboratory. The downside to surplus binoculars is that they often have cosmetic problems that will make your spouse and friends think you are nuts to pay so much for some old binocs. In the best of all possible worlds you could take binoculars out in your boat before buying them. Lacking that, ask to step out of the store and look at objects with a bright and glaring background. It won't be hard to choose after this kind of test, but it might cost you some money. Dave
posted 07-18-2001 07:23 AM ET (US)
I bought pair of pentax 7x50 that I really like, and several years ago bought the KVH datascope. Used attached to my sextant. Very cool device. Compas, range finder (if masthead hight is known), stores 9 bearings.
PS: why to we say "pair of binoculars"? Isn't "binoculars" an single item?
posted 07-18-2001 07:53 AM ET (US)
i sprung and bought a zoom "pair"( i agree larry, but?)of 7x-21x minoltas new!! took'em on a sailing trip in the w. indies.babied them.enjoyed them...but they grew fungus on the objectives.not good.and upon asking them about it..."they'd fix them for about $125+/-."....now, i sometimes take an 8x leica pocket compact pr. in the boat and/canoe...they are truly super!the pocket zeiss ones are good too and even lighter weight.i do worry about them...going overboard ,etc....lm
posted 07-18-2001 07:58 AM ET (US)
"pair of binoculars" is just one of those errors that have slipped into vernacular use.
Kinda like "PIN number". PIN stands for Personal Identification Number. So, saying "PIN number" is in essence saying "Personal Identification Number number"; redundent and wrong yet commonly used.
posted 07-18-2001 08:29 AM ET (US)
We have an old TASCO 7x50 Marine style binocular set, the ones coated with a yellow rubber.
They were damaged on an air plane flight (in our luggage), and I thought they were ruined.
I read a mention on-line somewhere that TASCO had excellent warranty repair. I called them and they said to they would fix them for just $10. I sent them to Miami and they came back several weeks later, the problem repaired and the binoculars as good as new.
They only cost about $90 new, and the no-questions-asked repair for $10 makes them a very good value.
posted 07-18-2001 08:56 AM ET (US)
I have a bunch of old Nikon equip that had grown fungus. Took it back to the Service Center in LI for rebuild. Was too expensive to repair, but they gave me really good advice (which I never remeber to follow): Put your optics out in a table with the sun overhead. a few times a year. the light will kill the fungus.
posted 07-18-2001 09:10 AM ET (US)
Where does the fungus grow, on the Inside? Also if they are sealed and purged with Nitrogen on some models how come they donít float?
I had actually narrowed my choice down by visiting the new BoatUS here in Cherry Hill, NJ. They had a very nice display so I was able to compare. I liked the Tasco Offshore line. Comfortable and clear. Even compared to the very expensive German ones. I guess the true test is on the water.
posted 07-18-2001 09:46 AM ET (US)
Fungus grow on the inside. Don't know how it gets inside nitrogen sealed binocs, but it does. Proably because nothing is sealed as well as you think it is. They dont float because they displace less then they weigh. But they proably achieve neutral bouyancy around 150 feet or so. There's proably a bunch of them hanging out down there waiting for some intrepid diver to come get them.
posted 07-18-2001 09:55 AM ET (US)
Check that, they proably impload on the wayt down. On subs, there is a device called the TDU, Trash disposal Unit, or, more affectionatly, the "Garbage Gun." Its a sttel tube about 20' tall, 10" in diameter, with a ball valve (BFV, or Big F$%$##$ Valve) on the lower end and a lib on the top. All the trash gets compressed into 3' tall 9.5" diameter galvanised steel cans, then you throw in some led weights, load the gun with your trash, and FIRE! We used to sneek empty tobasco bottles into the can just before we fired them. They would make it to about 3000 feet, than BANG! the sonar thech would call to the CONN "Loud explosion bearing XXX, Depression Angle YYY" OOD would figure it out and get PISSED!
posted 07-18-2001 10:10 AM ET (US)
I paid the price for a Steiner 7x35 about 15 years ago, worth every penny! Hunting, Auburn football, boating, bird watching. Also, Steiner service is above and beyond first rate. My first pair fogged internally after about two years of use, probably my fault through a faulty cleaning effort. I called Steiner on a Monday morning and explained what happened, expecting to have to return them for repair. I also noted that deer season was about to open and I needed some help as soon as possible. Thursday of the same week a new replacement showed up at my front door! Less than four days, no charge! And without them yet having the old pair in hand! Second set has been flawless for 13 years.
posted 07-18-2001 10:29 AM ET (US)
Steiner, rubber armour coated with compass and light. Bought them 15 years ago, and don't step on-board any boat without them in my duffle bag. As good as the day I bought them.
posted 07-18-2001 10:37 AM ET (US)
Bought a pair of Zeiss armourplated 8x30s in 1983. They are unbelievable, But at the price paid, losing them is a nagging thought. They are also somewhat heavy. So, for hunting, I usually keep a small set of Pentax with me on my belt - particularly, if I am not stand-hunting.
On board, I usually have the Pentax. My kids are 2 and 4 and have a proclivity for throwing things in the water!!
posted 07-18-2001 03:30 PM ET (US)
What a great opportunity to gloat. Last Saturday, my wife took off early in the morning to go to a garage sale. Generally I'm not happy about her shopping, however, when she came back with Fujinon Polaris binoculars that cost her....$3!!!!($three), I decided she should shop more often.
West Marine list these for $680.
posted 08-14-2001 02:04 PM ET (US)
By the way I got the Tasco OS54's for a great price - $189.00 new C-ME marine
Check this site , good prices.
posted 08-14-2001 02:25 PM ET (US)
Bausch and Lomb 8x42's, a little more magnification than 7's and more compact than the 50's
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