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JFM posted 07-23-2001 12:34 PM ET (US)
Does anyone know if this boat is the same as the Montauk? Owner says its 17'3" with a built in 30 gal. tank in rear. Also max HP 125? I don't see anything on 17 Outrage in the ref. section. Thanks, Jay
Tom W Clark posted 07-23-2001 01:03 PM ET (US)
The Outrage 17 is not the same as a Montauk, which is 16'7"
For more on this check out: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001092.html
dreid posted 07-23-2001 01:15 PM ET (US)
Almost no similarity at all, other than the decal. The 17' is a far superior product, much smoother-riding, very well engineered. Look at it as Dougherty's evolutionary step up from the Montauk. Tom Clark's posts (referred to above) give all the detail. Only thing is for not much more money, you can find a classic 18', which is whole other (and even better) story.
Bigshot posted 07-23-2001 01:32 PM ET (US)
Max should be 120hp.
whalernut posted 07-23-2001 09:08 PM ET (US)
I drove a 93` `17 Outrage and it is a little shorter and a little thinner than the `18 Outrage. I liked the boat, but I like the Montauk better, more stable and looks nicer. I would go for the Classic `18 Outrage unless you get a steal on the `17 Outrage! Regards-Jack GraNER.
djmerrill posted 07-23-2001 09:44 PM ET (US)
I've got a '91 Outrage 17. Completely different boat than the Montauk. More Deep V hull, so a better ride in chop, but a little less stable at rest. 34 Gallon under deck gas tank. I just had an opportunity to drive a '93 Outrage 18(19) this weekend. The Outrage 17 is almost an average of the Montauk and the Outrage 18. The ride is better than the Montauk, worse than the OR18. But, it takes less power to run or tow than the OR18, more than the Montauk.
I like my 17 a lot. I use it 80% inland lake, 20% coastal Maine. If I could have found a classic 1992 or earlier 18 in decent shape I would have preferred it, but I couldn't so I'm happy with my 17. Its the smallest boat I'd feel comfortable on by myself out on the coast.
BTW, there is a 1990 on Ebay right now. Strange stern deck configuration, it was either optional or offered in 1990 only. It looks like it cuts 2 seats and much standing room out of the picture. It looks mint, but is on a wobble roller trailer (OUCH).
Doug
JFM posted 07-24-2001 08:22 AM ET (US)
Doug, the boat I'm looking at is the one on ebay. I didn't notice the trailer. I called the guy and he wants $15,000 FIRM. I told him good luck. The boat is tempting, Ive never seen one that nice for sale. Regards Jay
whalernut posted 07-24-2001 05:17 PM ET (US)
Jay, that `17 Outrage on Ebay is a very fine specimin! I would think $15,000 is a little to high, maybee $12-13,000. Anyway, if you get her you will have to change trailers immediately, that one has Easy Rollers on it and can damage the hull by compressing the glass into the foam and could cause hull separtion! You could probably sell the trailer and buy a bunk style with keel rollers and be just fine! Good luck-Jack Graner. P.S. That is the nicest `17 Outrage in the Daugherty design I have ever seen, looks like a winner!
JFM posted 07-25-2001 12:23 PM ET (US)
Jack, do you think that damage could already have happened? The guy claims the boat has only been out 10-12 times. The rest of its life has been on that trailer in a air conditoned garage. Thanks, Jay
Bigshot posted 07-25-2001 12:51 PM ET (US)
Not many manufacturers recommend roller trailers, especially for storage type situations. I have also never seen any damage to a boat from rollers except from launching, etc. I have seen rollers go right through a Pantyliner while the guy ws winchiing it on the trailer. If you are worried, make that a stipulation. You obviously have the right to refuse the boat upon inspection, inspect it. I doubt it has any damage, especially on a 17 cause they are light. A 27 maybe. Catch my drift?
whalernut posted 07-26-2001 09:52 PM ET (US)
I agree with Bigshot, check it out and if no damage, it sure is a fine Outrage! Good luck-Jack Graner.
JE Mejia posted 07-27-2001 12:15 AM ET (US)
I have owned a 1994 Outrage 17 since new. I don't think you can even compare it with a Montauk. The ride is great for a 17 footer and I have taken it out 46 nm in the Gulf of Mexico many, many times. The design is impractical for more than two fisherpeople (or three joyriders), but within these limits, it is hard to beat this boat. Very easy to tow, very easy to launch and reload and just a pleasure to run around in. I just had to replace the tank and also just bought a 22 Dauntless, but even my fiancee refuses to let me part with the 17. Email me at jemejia@ciris.net if you have any questions.
JFM posted 07-27-2001 02:37 PM ET (US)
I am going for the boat on ebay if it doesn't hit the reserve on a side deal with the owner. If any of you guys are bidding on it let me know and I'll back off. The reserve is 15,000 or maybe even 15,250 to cover his ebay commision. Regards, Jay

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Author	Topic: 1990 17' outrage
JFM	posted 07-23-2001 12:34 PM ET (US) Does anyone know if this boat is the same as the Montauk? Owner says its 17'3" with a built in 30 gal. tank in rear. Also max HP 125? I don't see anything on 17 Outrage in the ref. section. Thanks, Jay
Tom W Clark	posted 07-23-2001 01:03 PM ET (US) The Outrage 17 is not the same as a Montauk, which is 16'7" For more on this check out: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001092.html
dreid	posted 07-23-2001 01:15 PM ET (US) Almost no similarity at all, other than the decal. The 17' is a far superior product, much smoother-riding, very well engineered. Look at it as Dougherty's evolutionary step up from the Montauk. Tom Clark's posts (referred to above) give all the detail. Only thing is for not much more money, you can find a classic 18', which is whole other (and even better) story.
Bigshot	posted 07-23-2001 01:32 PM ET (US) Max should be 120hp.
whalernut	posted 07-23-2001 09:08 PM ET (US) I drove a 93` `17 Outrage and it is a little shorter and a little thinner than the `18 Outrage. I liked the boat, but I like the Montauk better, more stable and looks nicer. I would go for the Classic `18 Outrage unless you get a steal on the `17 Outrage! Regards-Jack GraNER.
djmerrill	posted 07-23-2001 09:44 PM ET (US) I've got a '91 Outrage 17. Completely different boat than the Montauk. More Deep V hull, so a better ride in chop, but a little less stable at rest. 34 Gallon under deck gas tank. I just had an opportunity to drive a '93 Outrage 18(19) this weekend. The Outrage 17 is almost an average of the Montauk and the Outrage 18. The ride is better than the Montauk, worse than the OR18. But, it takes less power to run or tow than the OR18, more than the Montauk. I like my 17 a lot. I use it 80% inland lake, 20% coastal Maine. If I could have found a classic 1992 or earlier 18 in decent shape I would have preferred it, but I couldn't so I'm happy with my 17. Its the smallest boat I'd feel comfortable on by myself out on the coast. BTW, there is a 1990 on Ebay right now. Strange stern deck configuration, it was either optional or offered in 1990 only. It looks like it cuts 2 seats and much standing room out of the picture. It looks mint, but is on a wobble roller trailer (OUCH). Doug
JFM	posted 07-24-2001 08:22 AM ET (US) Doug, the boat I'm looking at is the one on ebay. I didn't notice the trailer. I called the guy and he wants $15,000 FIRM. I told him good luck. The boat is tempting, Ive never seen one that nice for sale. Regards Jay
whalernut	posted 07-24-2001 05:17 PM ET (US) Jay, that `17 Outrage on Ebay is a very fine specimin! I would think $15,000 is a little to high, maybee $12-13,000. Anyway, if you get her you will have to change trailers immediately, that one has Easy Rollers on it and can damage the hull by compressing the glass into the foam and could cause hull separtion! You could probably sell the trailer and buy a bunk style with keel rollers and be just fine! Good luck-Jack Graner. P.S. That is the nicest `17 Outrage in the Daugherty design I have ever seen, looks like a winner!
JFM	posted 07-25-2001 12:23 PM ET (US) Jack, do you think that damage could already have happened? The guy claims the boat has only been out 10-12 times. The rest of its life has been on that trailer in a air conditoned garage. Thanks, Jay
Bigshot	posted 07-25-2001 12:51 PM ET (US) Not many manufacturers recommend roller trailers, especially for storage type situations. I have also never seen any damage to a boat from rollers except from launching, etc. I have seen rollers go right through a Pantyliner while the guy ws winchiing it on the trailer. If you are worried, make that a stipulation. You obviously have the right to refuse the boat upon inspection, inspect it. I doubt it has any damage, especially on a 17 cause they are light. A 27 maybe. Catch my drift?
whalernut	posted 07-26-2001 09:52 PM ET (US) I agree with Bigshot, check it out and if no damage, it sure is a fine Outrage! Good luck-Jack Graner.
JE Mejia	posted 07-27-2001 12:15 AM ET (US) I have owned a 1994 Outrage 17 since new. I don't think you can even compare it with a Montauk. The ride is great for a 17 footer and I have taken it out 46 nm in the Gulf of Mexico many, many times. The design is impractical for more than two fisherpeople (or three joyriders), but within these limits, it is hard to beat this boat. Very easy to tow, very easy to launch and reload and just a pleasure to run around in. I just had to replace the tank and also just bought a 22 Dauntless, but even my fiancee refuses to let me part with the 17. Email me at jemejia@ciris.net if you have any questions.
JFM	posted 07-27-2001 02:37 PM ET (US) I am going for the boat on ebay if it doesn't hit the reserve on a side deal with the owner. If any of you guys are bidding on it let me know and I'll back off. The reserve is 15,000 or maybe even 15,250 to cover his ebay commision. Regards, Jay