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Dan posted 07-27-2001 11:13 PM ET (US)   Profile for Dan   Send Email to Dan  
Lately, I've read a suspiciously large number of posts bashing Whalers on this forum. These posts don't seem to be constructive, genuine, or sincere. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think one or two people are using multiple screen names. I smell sour grapes.

My former 1980 Montauk was fantastic. My current 1999 17 Outrage is beautiful in every way. I wouldn't trade it for any other 17' boat. Even my Mercury 115 has been performing flawlessly since I replaced the water separator/fuel filter. My Mills fly top and covers are superb. My Raytheon 365 fishfinder is a good value for the money -- sometimes there's too much turbulence for a good reading, but not too often. My Standard 150 GPS is excellent, as is the Standard Intrepid VHF. Someday I'll put a stainless prop on.

This evening I caught enough porgies to feed my family -- cooked to perfection by my local Chinese take out place.

People at my local marina are impressed with my newfound Whaler knowledge -- which consists of parroting what I read on this website. Thanks!

So to those people who think Whalers aren't a dream come true, who think dumb'ole Edgewaters are better, who think some drunk'ole salt, stink-bucket, wetting his gang-green toes at the end of the dock knows what he's talking about when he bashes Whalers -- to those people I have one thing to say -- KISS MY BASS! Whalers rule the waves!

dgp posted 07-27-2001 11:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for dgp  Send Email to dgp     
Dan, you have a very impressive web site. I'll bet you have some awesome pictures of your Whalers.
Bigshot posted 07-30-2001 11:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Have not seen too much whaler bashing to be honest with you. We had a good post on whether whalers are the best and some bashed their boats a bit, but nothing that is not really true(wet, rough, etc)depending on size and model. I love my whaler and the other 10 that came before it.
Chris J posted 07-30-2001 11:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chris J  Send Email to Chris J     
Most of the Whaler "bashing" I've seen here has been honest criticism of what the posters have considered "almost perfect" boats. When you get close to perfection you can't help but pick a few nits.

This kind of info is very useful, and doesn't hurt anyone... least of all BW. It also helps remind us that our boats may be rugged but are not indestructible, and neither are we.

Dan posted 07-30-2001 11:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dan  Send Email to Dan     
...okay, perhaps I was too sensitive. But the other day, a friend of mine was looking at a 23' Edgewater at the marina where we keep our boats. My friend asked me to help him evaluate the boat. The owner, who struck me as pretentious, made a nasty comment about Whalers, and how he doesn't like the smirk -- it was in response to a the Harbormaster's 24' Outrage passing by. For my friend's sake, I held my tongue. I wasn't impressed by the Edgewater -- it seemed crude and unrefined by comparison to Whalers. Anyway, I guess all this has made me too sensitive. : )
Bigshot posted 07-30-2001 02:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Dan, that stuff pee's us all off and you just want to say something nasty. I have had people come up to me at a sandbar, ask me how I like the boat and then start telling me how they went on one once and it rode like crap, yada, yada, yada. I just got up and jumped overboard. People are weird and the guy was probably just doing his best of shongo salesmanship because everyone who sees it comments on it being a psuedo whaler, yada, yada, yada.
Dan posted 07-30-2001 03:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dan  Send Email to Dan     
Bigshot you say, "you just want to say something nasty" -- coming from a person with the screen name "Bigshot." -- I'll take your comment with a grain of salt. Also, weren't you the person who wrote "I've forgotten more about boats than you ever knew" to a fellow board member? Hmmm?

Earlier in the year this bulletin board was a kindler, gentler place. : ) Sure people freely discussed problems with their Whalers and ways to fix them. However, you seem to enjoy, and it's your freedom of speech to express, your perceived short comings in Whalers, all the Whale ending with the statement but I love Whalers and owned... It's like the racist saying but some of my best friends are... Yada yada yada back at ya. But let me leave off saying, "You're right and I'm wrong!" (I know a Whalerguy situation in the making.) That way this doesn't have to turn into some sort of thing -- you win -- I give.

Bigshot posted 07-30-2001 03:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
I was agreeing with you DAN! You were the one that said you had to "For my friend's sake, I held my tongue" remember? That is why I said you just want to say something nasty. And no I was no that person. I said,"I have forgotten more about boats than some people here will ever know." Big difference when talking in general than to one person. Maybe you are to sensitive, have you tried Decaf?
Dan posted 07-30-2001 05:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dan  Send Email to Dan     
Oh yeah? You were agreeing with me? I was agreeing with you. So there. Decaf -- gimme a double-latte mochachino with a cinnamon stick -- ah make that a black coffee with extra grounds I'm a Whalerman -- that's how we like it. Like the time I was in the channel with 50' waves -- little scary in a 13' whaler -- but worth it for the view from the top of the wave's crest -- pitch-poled a few times but the Whaler always landed on her feet with nary a splash -- a dry ride she was, even in 50 footers.
Bigshot posted 07-30-2001 05:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Glad to see you made it. Were you the one in Hawaii recently:)
whalernut posted 08-05-2001 10:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Dan, I belive Bigpants was talking to me when he made the "I have forgotten more about Outdrives than most members know". The man seams to know everything, he thinks the Type 1 Merc. outdrives suck, I`ll show him my brothers 71` Searay with one that has been awsome for 30 years as has the 250 Chevy in front of it! Bigshot, I have taken you with a grain of salt so far since you have been a member, and I have very thick skin, but when you made that ridiculous statement about older Merc. outrives you definatelly guessed on that one, they were awsome outdrives and much better in my opinion than the Mexican parts made ones that my other brother had on his 89` `26 Searray that broke down every other year, he was glad to rid of that one! I like you`re posts Bigshot, but think about what you are saying, the old Merc. Type 1 outdrives were awsome and just keep saying it over and over to you`re self(he-he)! Regards-Jack Graner.
Bigshot posted 08-06-2001 10:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Jack, I know you do not care anymore, we have talked since then and I was wrong to say what I did. Was p'eed about something else and got myself into trouble by "thinking out loud". I said the parts were expensive and hard to find. My initial response I think was in reference to the old OMC's when I said they suck even though they are around. Those electric shifts are horrible, shift too fast and they blow($400 part plus labor). Nothing wrong with old mercs but like i said they are PRE alpha and parts are becoming far and few between for some items. My pants are 34-36 inch, is that big for a 6' guy:) PS I am not sure but is "sucks" allowed here?
Whalerdan posted 08-06-2001 12:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdan  Send Email to Whalerdan     
I got the same size and yes it's big. But I'm 42.
Whalerdan posted 08-06-2001 12:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdan  Send Email to Whalerdan     
That 42 years old.
Dan posted 08-06-2001 12:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dan  Send Email to Dan     
Oh my! The topic that goes on and on. Why did I write it? What's wrong with me? Bigpants, Bigshot -- who's Whaler is bigger? And who can tell the difference between an outdrive and an inseam or a fly top and a zippered fly? Which has more horse power? LOL -- and how did the Mexicans get involved in all this? Is the grain of salt to go with the big shot of tequilla? Sheesh! ; )
hardensheetmetal posted 08-06-2001 12:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     
Dan, Dan..., DAN,... wake up,... are you OK?..., I think the heat has gotten to you!

Dan H.

Dan posted 08-06-2001 12:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dan  Send Email to Dan     
Yeah, the heat got to me -- you're right! By the way, I checked out the http://www.hamptonwatercraft.com web site -- they've reduced the price of the 17 and 18 Outrage -- I know you were looking at the 17 -- just thought I'd mention it.
Bigshot posted 08-06-2001 02:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Actually Dan, they are starting some good whaler bashing on 2002 Montauk? site. It might just be new montauk, I don't know:)Never liked button flies though. Real annoying when you've had too much 1800 or Padron.
whalernut posted 08-06-2001 04:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Bigshot, I am 5`8" with a 42inch waist-UGH! Yea, those electric shifts do shift to fast and we are going to run it until it dies! It runs great now and may die tomorrow, got the boat, motor, and trailer for $600, so what the hey! Regards-Jack Graner.
Bigshot posted 08-06-2001 04:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
What is that on Jack? Will you repower or do a bracket/outboard? I have seen where they fill in the transom and do a more modern setup but cost is not pretty unless you get a nice used setup. A conversion from an old merc to newer is easier being you do not have that giant bellows and all. Do love they way they tilt so high, too bad you can't run it that way.
whalernut posted 08-06-2001 09:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Bigshot, my brother and I bought a 1965 `17 MFG for just drift or anchor fishing. Iy is in decent shape and the 68` 85h.p. Johnson is in great shape and runs strong! We said, let`s buy it and see what happens! I love the lapstrake look! If the motor goes, we will sell it for parts and sell the boat and trailer separately? Maybee repower with a cheap 50-70h.p. outboard without electric shift! Regards-Jack Graner.
whalernut posted 08-06-2001 09:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Forgot to mention we fish on Lake Erie in Ohio and PA. JACK.

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