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How interesting was your Whaler purchase?
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posted 08-03-2001 09:50 AM ET (US)
I just read a post about a guy who acquired his whaler from his girlfriend's father and he basically got the boat for a steal. It made me wonder what interesting stories are out there concerning whaler purchases.
In 1980, when we were looking to buy our first Whaler, we found an ad in the local paper for a 1975 Montauk and that Sunday morning, we drove over to look at it. It was purchased new by the owner and it had never been cleaned waxed or cared for. And, it had a 115 Johnson and it was stored without a cover on a trailer under the trees in this guy's backyard. He wanted $4000 for it. The boat was a mess and the guy really wasn't sure he wanted to sell it. He was a pilot for United airlines and because he was never home, he said he never got to use the boat. But, if he could get the 4K for it, he would maybe sell it. We were talking with him and trying to decide whether or not he would really part with the boat. During that conversation, his phone rang and he took the call. He said the call was from some old guy, named Charles, on the other end of town who had a whaler for sale and the guy, Charles, wanted to know if the pilot had sold his whaler yet. Charles said he too had a Whaler for sale and that he didn't put an ad in the paper because he didn't want to give any competition to the pilot's boat but if the pilot sold his boat, would he please refer any later calls to Charles. Then the pilot said, "Why don't you go look at this other boat while I decide what I want to do." So, we drove over to look at this older 1969 boat. Charles had bought the boat new and it had a new (40hrs) Johnson 70hp on it. The boat was a 1969 Minot and it was immaculate. He wanted $3000 for it. Needless to say, we never returned to the pilot.
posted 08-03-2001 10:32 AM ET (US)
Hmmm....Couple months ago i bought a 14' McKee(85) with a 35 Merc and trailer for $500. Figured it would be a good replacement for the 14' Carolina that jars your fillings loose. 3 Days later I see an add for a 1990 Montauk w/90 hp Yamaha and Alum trailer for $5k firm. Too good to be true but I call. Guy says come on over, he sounds a bit weird but I go over during lunch. Boat turns out to be a 89 Montauk. Bimini, 1998 Yamaha inshore and a 97 alum torsion trailer, 27 gal Pate. Look it over and knowing my wife is gonna shoot me I ask what his bottom line was. He thinks and says $4500 I damn near fall over. He then says"Tell you what, $4k cash and its yours!" Deal! His girlfriend was married to a very famous tennis coach and it was part of the divorce and sat outside for almost 2 years. What a mess! New steering, waterpump, light wiring and a lot of compound, she is MINT! Thanks To WhalerTim for the RPS cover too.
posted 08-03-2001 11:21 AM ET (US)
Sold my 13 and regreted it for 4 years. I couldn't resist anymore so I sat down and scanned boat trader plus newspaper classifieds on the internet from Panama City FL. to Corpus Christi TX. I was looking for a 15 sport and after 2 months an ad pops up one morning in the paper listing a 1980 for $3500 and JUST 8 miles from home!! Read the ad at 6:00 AM and waited an excrutiating 2 hours before calling. Drove up and the guy opens the garage door and I just got weak at the knees when I saw the boat. I knew right then that she was coming home with me and I did'nt even care if the engine worked. Everything was orginal 1980, had very little use and had been treated with TLC. Included was a galvanized trailer, custom made canvas,trolling motor, bimini top and a forward pedastal seat. Needless to say I made the deal and it's been a love affair ever since. I knew that I had been fortunate to have been in the right place at the right time. This was further validated by the owner who later told me that he received close to 40 calls on the boat and had been chastised by all of his friends and family for not letting them know the boat was for sale. Whalerin' rules and my thanks to Jim for this great site.
posted 08-03-2001 12:45 PM ET (US)
My first whaler purchase was about 4 years ago. Went out looking for a cheap fishing boat. Told a dealer my needs and wants and he told me I should get a 13 Sport. I didn't know what he was talking about and I had been around and owned boats most my life. Dealer told me of a guy who had a sport that he wanted on trade bad. Cost me 100 bucks for the guy's name and number. The boat was a 1969 13 with 1985 Johnson 40 original owner mint except the wood. Bought it on the spot for $2750. We sold the boat a year later for $3800 and went out to buy a new Montauk, but came home with a new left over Bayliner 1903 CC for $14,500. Took the 1903 out 1 time and were totally disappointed .We sold it for $16,000 and went looking for a used Montauk. Still haven't found the right one. However we found a 1972 13 sport w 1990 Evenrude 40Hp for $2600 and are happy to have it! In our area Whalers are hard to find and the local dealer doesn't even stock Montauks. Sooner or later we'll find the right one. Regards, Jay
posted 08-03-2001 04:21 PM ET (US)
All I ever wanted was a mid eighties outrage 18. For years I scoured the local papers and want ads searching for one at a great price. Well one spring it finally happened. 1985 with 140 evinrude $6,500. To good to be true. Called the guy up went over and the boat was mint, been in storage for 5 years. Gave him 6000 for it. Turned out he was getting a divorce and had to get rid of it fast. When I picked it up there was a pile of stuff infront of it. He forgot to tell me it had outriggers, new mills canvas bow dodger and flying top with the full curtians, spare deacls, and he even gave me bottom paint. I was happy it had a clean title the way he wanted to get rid of it scared me!.
Anyhow I used it hard for 2 seasons and sold her for 12,500. with out spending a cent on her except for oil and gas.
posted 08-04-2001 02:35 PM ET (US)
I love deals like that, but who does'nt.
posted 08-05-2001 01:37 AM ET (US)
My boat (an 81 Newport) was sitting on a trailer, in front of a psychic shop. I had been looking for a whaler for some time, so when I saw it with a for sale sign, I stopped and inquired. I knocked on the door to the psychic shop, and when the guy came, I told him " I want to buy your boat, but you probably already knew that. Why didn't you just call me"? Apparently that kind of humor is not very funny to a psychic. Anyhow, I got the boat.
posted 08-06-2001 10:15 AM ET (US)
I thought it was funny. Did the same with a montauk last year in FL that was in front of a psychic "house/shop". Guy said he was not a psychic but his girlfriend was. Anyhow, the humor was wasted.
posted 08-06-2001 02:58 PM ET (US)
I had traveled a little out of my sales territory to up state New York to purchase a 13' Whaler Hull ID #886 it was rough but had a working Chrystler 55hp on it that ran and the price was to good to pass on. During the winter restoration the boat took on new life and even my wife agreed that that old outboard just did not look right on this classic. I found a good deal on a used Tohatsu in Ill. and made arrangements to pick it up. This was during the boat show season and the salesman that sold me the motor was at a show when I went to pick it up. This is when I found out that one of the service tech. had accidently sold my motor. Well they were very sorry and offered to sell me a new motor,or a new Boston Whaler, quite thoughtful,or return my deposite. During all this I noticed a 65 Nauset with an 1977 Johnson 85hp. I used a little leverage that I had been given and ended up striking a deal that again was to good to pass on. So I left for a motor and came home with a boat and a motor.My wife is very understanding and forgiving but I am affraid some day I will have to choose between the two....Boats not boats or wife
posted 08-06-2001 07:04 PM ET (US)
Bought my '69 Nauset from my cousin Billy in 1992. My cousin Billy bought this very boat from my brother John in 1984. My brother John bought this very boat from its original owner, a friend who lived down at the Ocean City, New Jersey shore.
The thing which amazes me is that I got to "ride" in her with each owner since her delivery in the 60s.
posted 08-06-2001 07:07 PM ET (US)
Almost forgot... this weekend my brother offered to buy her back if / when I wanted to sell. The funny thing is that, with the rehab / repower / re-trailer, it will cost him 4x more to buy it this Nauset than it did the last time he bought it!!!
posted 08-06-2001 08:10 PM ET (US)
I just posted this reply in another topic, when it should have been posted here.
In 1988 I bought a 1986 22' Outrage Cuddy and named her Victoria. Victoria is a common boat name. However, to me it has a special meaning. Now starts the story. Continue reading, or go to the next reply.
Ok, for those of you that have time to kill, here is the reason why I bought a Whaler and why she is named Victoria. Everyone who is an ocean boater knows, or should know, the story of Magellan. Yes, he was the first sailor reportedly to sail around the world. Some of you may even know that Magellan actually did not survive the entire trip. Magellan was killed in the Philippines when he got a little greedy and was attempting to conquer the locals. Anyway, back to the purpose for this story. Magellanís expedition started with 5 ships. One turned back early on and three others were lost at sea. However, one ship did make it back to Europe. The name of that ship was Victoria, and the captain of that ship was Juan Sebastian DeCano.
My Whaler was my first boat, and when I go out to sea, I always want to come back. The best way for me to ensure that I always come back was to buy a Boston Whaler, name it Victoria. Oh yes, and it wouldnít hurt to have the last name of Cano. End of story!
PS: I really donít know if Juan and I are related. However, I would like to think so!
posted 08-06-2001 11:38 PM ET (US)
Have two interesting stories!
Bought first Whaler in 1972. Family from Connecticut moved to central Ohio and figured they wouldn't have any place to use their '68 Sakonnet with 100hp Merc. Their loss (lack of knowledge of Ohio) was my gain. Purchased boat, motor and trailer for $2200. Still have it, still looks great, including all mahogany which I totally refinished couple years ago. Also repowered with '79 Merc 115.
I spent past winter at my Florida townhouse at Indian Rocks Beach, FL. While cruising in and out channels off of ICW in my Aquasport 175 I saw an older Outrage hanging on davits which appeared to be weathered and not used for a while. Lots of mildew and chalking, well-weathered teak, and appeared to be bottom painted. Returned in mid June and decided to see if owner interested in parting with it. Didn't have my boat in water at that time so decided to drive over and walk street looking for boat between houses; unfortunately, fences and shrubbery prevented that. Upon returning to my car after walking for mile & a half, finally saw someone, an older fellow mowing his lawn on riding mower. Stopped and told him what I was looking for and wondered if he knew where boat might be. He looked at me, smiled, and said "That's my boat". I about fell over! - only person I saw on entire search. He hadn't used boat for about 2 years due to heart attack and doctor's orders. Talked him into letting me take it off his hands for a song. 1973 Outrage 21 with 88 Merc 150. Returned to FL couple weeks ago and towed it back to Ohio to restore. Had to buy new dual axle MagicTilt trailer which cost couple hundred less than boat and motor. My brother and I got engine to start and run smoothly for about a minute but stopped when saw no water tell-tale; assume it at least needs waterpump. Take it to Merc dealer this Wed for complete checkout. All of mildew and crud was readily removed with Clorox/water solution and little scrubbing - bottom wasn't painted, just heavy coat of mildew which rinsed right off. Bottom actually in very good condition.Topside and interior will need some fiberglass repair and then painted. Will have that done. As Don McIntyre says , owning and fixing up old Whalers is a disease. Can't wait to get started on my "new" toy.
posted 08-07-2001 09:59 AM ET (US)
Sitting for a few years, have mechanic clean carbs. That is the #1 killer of outboards, lean mixture. Good Luck!
posted 08-07-2001 10:41 PM ET (US)
I was trying to buy Shakey's 17 Montauk.
We could not make a deal because I was short of cash for the total.
I decided to purchase a 73' Montauk instead.
In an E-mail thanking Shakey for working with me on his boat we stumbled across something he needed for his daughter that I had.
So I sold the 73 to a pal and, after taking a brow beating from my wife for making the deal behind her back, I made the deal.
Needless to say I had to sleep in the boat for while......
After purchasing her a new Tundra I'm back indoors.
Why do we do this to ourselves?
posted 08-07-2001 11:18 PM ET (US)
Congratulations! What a deal, I thought it only happend in the movies like that.
Advice wise, I would replace those thru-hull drain tubes. That foam is proably as dry as its ever going to be, don't miss this chance.
posted 08-08-2001 12:51 PM ET (US)
I hope that whaler is doing good by you! I sure regret ever getting rid of it thats for sure! But it all worked out great, but if you ever want to sell it back let me know! BTW I think I'm about to do another trade for a 1966 Whaler sport 13' and pull a restoration on it. We still need to get together and go fishing or hunting!
posted 08-08-2001 03:10 PM ET (US)
Sounds great Shakey....
I have not forgotten about the hunting expo.
Just waiting for the Geese/Ducks to get here.
I love the boat... ...no doubt.
Write me @ firstname.lastname@example.org we'll work a deal if you really want it back.
I'd like that... ...I can't give you any more of my wife's stuff though.
The 13 deal sounds fun for you.
posted 08-08-2001 05:19 PM ET (US)
If we are able to make a deal, it will probably involve an acura! lol Through a weird turn of events it is now my work car! BUT if your wife really wants it back, I cant think of a better way to stop working and start fishing!
posted 08-11-2001 10:28 PM ET (US)
My first whaler experience was when I signed a contract for an associate position in a veterinary practice, handed it to the owner, and was told "I bought you a boat". If I stayed for 2 years, it would be mine! He had a 1968 13 that had belonged to a county road and bridge department, and was bought at an equipment auction. It was pretty rough, and had a tiller 25 (88 evinrude); it ran like a top as it turned out (30 on the gps). I then spent months working on it. My new boss was trying to work me to death at the same time, so it drug out for six months or more. I patched it up, re-gelled the outside, and then it went to a boatyard for a baitwell, running lights, and tuneup. Used it a fair bit, but the job was horrible. I had to quit before the 2 years, and don't believe he would have honored his promise anyway, he wasn't honest in any dealing with the public or his friends. I sure enjoyed that little boat.
Within three weeks of quitting, I bought my Nauset. That's a story too, but I won't drag everyone through another one of my ramblings. Maybe later.
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