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jimh posted 08-12-2001 12:17 AM ET (US)   Profile for jimh   Send Email to jimh  
I stopped by the pilot boat station in Detroit last week to say hello to my friends over there, and they had a rather interesting picture up on the bulletin board.

The photograph showed a couple of fishermen scrambling off of a sinking 20-footbass boat. It was taken from overhead from the deck of the lake freighter that rescued them!

These guys were lucky the freighter happened to be nearby. Their bass boat was going down, taking a big V-6 MERC outboard with it. It looked like they got off just in time.

That is one situation you probably won't find yourself in when you are out in Boston Whaler.

Dr T posted 08-12-2001 01:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dr T  Send Email to Dr T     
Back when I first started looking at boats back in the late 80's, I was struck by how little carrying capacity that the typical 18 ft. bass boat has (with the exception of Ranger boats--they have similar construction to Whalers).

In general, I found them to be lightly built, over powered, and inadequately bouyant.

I once saw something, shall we say, interesting happen to a bass boat on Lake Ray Hubbard (east of Dallas). The guy driving the boat nailed it while he was still in the NO WAKE zone. He was accellerating hard when he hit the wake of another boat that had done something similar. This guy went airborne and lands stern down. The big motor goes down and leaves the boat bow bobbing like a cork on a cane pole. Fortunately, the two guys in the boat were OK. They were thrown clear and were able to swim to the bobbing bow. Plus, they were still near the break water of the marina.

Much to be said for moderately powered little boats that can't sink.

triblet posted 08-13-2001 01:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
I saw a boat towed into Monterey in about
the same condition.

It was a sort of overgrown aluminium dory.
The pon-pon call had come over the VHF as we
were putting the Montauk on the trailer: two
people in the water off Pt. Joe (probably
10 miles from the ramp). I saw the Coasties
headed for 47224 (the biggest boat under
control of Station Monterey). About the time we got the dive
gear and cameras cleaned and backed, 47224
came back, and I wandered down to take a
look. I really wish I'd taken a picture --
it's a whaler sales shot equal to the sawed
in two whaler. Bow floating about 1'
out of the water, outboard was about 17' down.

Now, stupidity plays a role here -- it was a
mildly snotty day, and Pt. Joe was no place
to take that boat that day. They'd probably
taken a wave on board, then another, and
swamped. They were in 50F water for probably
half an hour or more. Absent an exposure
suit (highly unlikely), they had to be


jward posted 08-13-2001 10:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for jward  Send Email to jward     
I also so a boat in Lake Ray Hubbard with only the bow bobbing above the water, about 4 years ago. You could see the bow from the I-30 bridge eastbound lane...a submerged stump field was within 50 yards...which I assume did the boat in. The boat stayed there for about a week.

Bigshot posted 08-13-2001 10:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
saw a 15' sport being towed in by the coasties on Barnegat Inlet. It was being towed in upside down but you could tell it was a 15'.
Dr T posted 08-13-2001 10:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dr T  Send Email to Dr T     
Lake Ray Hubbard can get real rough, but I agree with Triblet: Stupidity has to play a role.

Was the boat off the I-30 or 66 bridge?


MikeR posted 08-13-2001 11:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for MikeR  Send Email to MikeR     
I live right on Lake Ray Hubbard. There is a lot of stupidity going there. One has to be especially careful because it is windy, shallow, skiers and jet skis out the whazoo. Lots of stumps especially during the summer. My neighbor took a brand new boat out and put a jagged stump through the hull on maiden voyage. I see several of those every summer.
Dr T posted 08-14-2001 12:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dr T  Send Email to Dr T     
I lived two miles from the boat landing by the 66 bridge until 1996. What you say is quite true of the north part of the lake. I found a 2 inch square of abraded gel coat on the bottom of my hull that was probably caused by a stump in heavy waves.

The south end of the lake is an open bay about 5 miles wide. The lake is about 15 miles long north to south, and it has prevailing southerly winds between 10 to 25 MPH for much of the year.

It is a great lake for sailing, but you have to be careful in a power boat.

It has excellent striper fishing, and being right next door to Dallas, gets a lot of powerboat traffic.

I once saw a guy in a brand new bass boat wreck his lower unit when he hit a submerged stump going over 40 mph.

Hope they start giving tickets some time. I miss the fishing, but not the traffic.

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