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bdb posted 08-14-2001 02:49 PM ET (US)   Profile for bdb   Send Email to bdb  
I've been mulling starting this subject, and the post about spark plug wires in "Performance" urged me on.

What do you folks carry aboard in the way of the subject materials? I think we could all pick up some good info on the subject. Betcha JimH carries wire ties now; I can use my paddle for a splint, and so on.

My "kits" have changed through the years, based on types of boats, cruising waters, age of passengers, age of power, time of year, etc. etc.

I've even been known to carry a Harpoon...

Harry

Bigshot posted 08-14-2001 03:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
A pint of whiskey, hammer and duct tape! Kidding! Pint of whiskey, hammer, duct tape, screwdriver(s), spark plug wrench, a few spark plugs(all 6 usually do not foul at once), paddle, mini mag light, robogrips and a few open-end wrenches in common sizes. Make sure you can get the thermostats out at sea. removal lightens the pressure so a worn pump can usually cool enough to get home. Carry some wire too, you can also rig a livewell pump up to some hose and make your own electric water pump. Very important-Know how to hot wire your own boat, in case you lose your keys or key switch goes bad, etc.
Mullet posted 08-14-2001 03:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mullet  Send Email to Mullet     
Boat bag includes, fuses, wire ties, several open end wrenches, handheld vhf, fuel/water filter with wrench and filter, screwdrivers, hose clamps, flares, chemical lights, more flares, vise grips, and a pint of whiskey. Cooler contains food, mixer, beer, fresh fish, and plenty of ice. As far as mechanical goes, extended warranty and increased towing coverage.
Bigshot posted 08-14-2001 03:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Thanks mullet, $500 tow coverage is a minimum and a must unless you never venture further than you can paddle. Extra oil is also a must.
Buckda posted 08-14-2001 04:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
At the risk of sounding naive -

What do you have a pint of whisky for?

jameso posted 08-14-2001 04:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for jameso  Send Email to jameso     
I have to agree a pint is not enough! Seriously I take a multi tool along with most other things listed here. I have several but my favorite aboard the boat is one made by SOG several years ago and I think it is discontinued now. A friend of mine once told me he was looking for a set of cheap import wrenches to put in his boat,,I asked why,,,If I need a wrench miles from shore I don't want to be handed a cheapie. My 2centos Jim Armstrong
lhg posted 08-14-2001 04:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Somewhere buried in the Forum is huge thread on this subject.
Tsuriki BW posted 08-14-2001 04:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
Anesthesia..

Broken..sprained anckle, 10/0 hook in hand, bad bang on the head from a fall in foul weather, gaf accident. But definately not for the captian!

Medicinal purposes only...

Tsuriki

triblet posted 08-14-2001 11:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
Tools: most anything I've needed to work on the
boat in the garage. I use the boat tool box
(4x8x2 imitation Tupperware) when I work on
the boat. If I have to go to the real tool
box (giant Craftsman rollcab) I ask myself
should I get another one of these and put it
on the boat? Most of the tools are
stainless. Screwdrivers, crescent wrench,
channel locks, Leatherman tool, pliars.
1/4" socket set (not SS, anybody know a
source for SS socket sets?).

Spares: Keys, two sets for boat, and truck
as soon as I find someone that make a key
for the new truck that doesn't have the magic
microchip (I don't want to start it, just
open the door) for less than $50. Two plugs.
Spare flush plug. Light bulbs for boat and
trailer. Hub, bearings, seal, buddy with
required tools and lube (these stay in the
truck). A few loose bolts and such.
A big box of dive spares. A big box of UW
camera spares.

Safety: CG required stuff for night ops.
Electric horn and manual whistle. Radar
reflector when doing pelagic dives. Two
dive flags. M70 grenade launcher for the
next drunk that ignores my dive flag
;-) One darn near ran Linda over Saturday.
Paper charts with course, time, and RPM to get
home in the fog if the GPS craps out.

Multiple flashlights. Strobe (not legal
above water, but we use it to mark the anchor
on night dives, and I'd use it in an
emergency on the surface in a heartbeat.
Waterski flag. $20. Registration.

Two VHFs, one console mount, one hand held.
And cellphone in a waterproof case.

An anchor. About once a month, we hear on
the VHF:

Boat: we're drifting onto the rocks.
CG: Put out your anchor.
Boat: we don't have one.

DUH.

The bitter end of the anchor rode is attached
to the boat with an SS carabiner. In an
emergency, I can clip a fender to the bitter
end and be underway in the 30 seconds.

150' of polypropaline line with a small
fender on the end. It's day job is to let
the diver haul themself back to the boat in
a bad current, but I can see a number of
scenarios where it would be useful.

First Aid: Basic stuff: band-aids, gauze,
gloves, pocket mask. I'm trying to put
together an O2 kit for dive emergencies,
but I've usually got a tank of 50% on board
now anyway (and I can always holler on the
VHF for help from the commercial boats).
Suntan lotion (high SPF). Vinegar (fixes
jellyfish stings and urchin sticks). Fresh
water (about 3L for a day trip, plus sodas).

Don't carry: spare prop (hit a rock in
Monterey and you are REALLY stupid. There's
only one hidden rock, and it's in a kelp
bed (dumb place to take a boat). Spare oil
(2 gallon tank, kept at least half full).
Spare gas.

Chuck

Bigshot posted 08-15-2001 09:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
The whiskey is for when you are really screwed and you need something to calm you down before you scuttle the boat. Since you already tried to scuttle it and realized whalers really don't sink, you drink it while waiting for SeaTow.
Bigshot posted 08-15-2001 09:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Chuck that is unbelievable, where do you and Linda sit? I have been on commercial dive boats with half that. Great job! PS I keep MSG or meat tenderizer also for jellyfish stings. Also have binoculars, flares and sunscreen.
triblet posted 08-15-2001 11:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
It all fits in the console, along with the
battery and the oil tank, except for
the dive flag (one's behind the seat, the
other's on the deck), strobe (behind the
seat), anchor (bow locker), current line (bow
locker), H2O (1 L in a little ice chest with
sodas and sandwiches, 2K in the motor well.)
The stuff in the console is in three Pelican
cases and some tuperware.

I forgot that there's also a nylon
windbreaker, warm "dork hats" (baseball caps with ear flaps a la Floyd R. Turbo and Elmer
Fudd), big floppy sun hats, and warm gloves
in the console. Also forgot to list jumper
cables. They have earned a couple of cases
of beer over the years.

Chuck

blackdog posted 08-15-2001 01:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog  Send Email to blackdog     
I have only seen pictures on Chuckís boat on his web site but Iíll bet itís the most ship shape squared away vessel in the fleet!
Chuck, do you remove all the stuff every time? Or do you just back her in the garage where it is High & Dry? I am still trying to work out my system, as I have to unload, remove cushions after every use. To high to fit in garage.
Also still looking for a pickle barrel for my anchor line. Bow locker is much small on the Dauntless.

Gene

Sawgrass posted 08-15-2001 02:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sawgrass  Send Email to Sawgrass     
If you travel coastal areas where you may foul a wire crab trap in the prop, I recommend carrying a pair of aviation snips for removing the mess. These snips work better than regular wire cutters because they are spring loaded....very handy for a one-handed operation while leaning out over the transom. Otherwise, you may have to get into the water or find a bank/pier to access the prop which under certain conditions may not be very favorable. I also recommend tying a tether to the pliers than can be slipped onto your wrist.

Happy Whalerin'
Rick

Bigshot posted 08-15-2001 02:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Did that years ago(1981) in my buds 17 Newport. Had this trap wrapped around prop like a cone. Guy comes buy and tells us he wants $50 for a new trap(we were 10' from buoy) and we said we want $100 for a new prop. Got pretty scary when he pulled out the shotgun, luckily another boat came by and he split in a hurry. Figured he was just looking for some $$ being we were 3 12 year olds in a brand new 1981 Whaler. Moral, stay FAR away from traps.
Hank posted 08-15-2001 11:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hank  Send Email to Hank     
I'd like to add a large, clean towel. Here in Florida add Bug repellant and sunscreen.
Hank
jimh posted 08-15-2001 11:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Regarding tools:

I recently bought a little tool kit at Sears. It was Craftsman Club week, it was on sale, I got an extra 15% off, the price was irresistable.

I thought, "I'll just keep this on the boat and I'll always have the right socket or wrench." (There must be 40 different Metric and Inch sockets in this little kit.)

First time I need a socket, I grab the 10-MM one to remove the nut on this ground post...

Guess what--I needed a deep-well socket to reach the nut. All those sockets in the kit were not deep well. Ended up using this crappy thing in the OEM engine tool pouch that came with the outboard.

Moral of the story: sometimes it is better to just have a couple of the exact, right tools that you will actually need than to have a complete set of sockets/wrenchs that don't quite fit anything.

--jimh

jimh posted 08-15-2001 11:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
OH, forgot to mention the next thing...

Needed to change a plug, so I grabbed the new tool kit again. This time it turns out the spark plug socket is the wrong size; it fits the new automotive style plugs and I need the old 13/16-inch plug socket.

I think I will give the toolkit away as a Christmas gift to my son who needs some tools around the house.

I am going back to Sears (next Craftsman Clubd week sale) to buy a 10-MM deep well socket and a 13/16-inch spark plug socket. Those two things fit every hex-head fastener on the outboard.

triblet posted 08-16-2001 02:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
I forgot to mention that my socket set on
the boat is deep sockets till JimH mentioned
his adventure.

Chuck.

Clark Roberts posted 08-16-2001 08:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
I paint my boat tools with red spray paint in an effort to keep them from finding their way back in the garage tool box. Also it helps to find them when it's time to pack them away... I need all the help I can get! Happy Whalin'... Clark... The Old Man
Duncan posted 08-23-2001 04:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Duncan  Send Email to Duncan     
Didn't hear mention of STARTING FLUID. I'm a duck hunter and I (now that I'm more experienced) always make sure the motor fires while it's still on the trailer (and shut it down quick). Starting batteries aren't good for much crankin' at 5 below zero and at 4:30 in the morning who gives two...about the water pump!
Forget the directions...pull one or both spark plugs, squirt for one and-a-half seconds, quickly reinstall and she'll fire...garun-T!
triblet posted 08-24-2001 10:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
Blackdog, I missed your comment a week ago.

Yes, everything stays on board except one
Pelican case with camera maintenance stuff
which goes into the house so I can use it.

I just drag it into the garage by hand, and
open the console doors to let the dampness
out. I don't bother to drag it in if I'm
going back out the next day.

I think a console that was just a set of
shelves for holding Pelican boxes would be
really cool. No messing around in the
console to find the right drybox (there are
seven in there).

Chuck

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