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OutrageMan posted 08-24-2001 04:15 PM ET (US)   Profile for OutrageMan   Send Email to OutrageMan  
Well it is official. I am temporarily out of the Whaler Club. I just sold the Dog House. But not to worry, I was only without a boat for about 1.5 hrs. I bought a 1972 24' Bertram Moppie with the pop up fore deck. I intend to restore it to original. If you are currious, you can see a picture of it @ and

I am going to miss my boat, but needs and wants change. Maybe if the longing for a Whaler becomes unbearable, I will go and take a close look at the 11' near my house....


kingfish posted 08-24-2001 04:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Hey, Brian-

Just because you're temporarily out of the Whaler (owners) Club doesn't mean you're out of the forum club - don't be a stranger-


bigz posted 08-24-2001 04:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
Brian, did you buy your blue blazer, white trou and a pair of Goochie (sp) white deck shoes yet?? giggle -----

Like the KingF says --- please don't stay a stranger to the forum ---


PS: gee could have sold you our 27 ccc -- would have even thrown in pilot seats --- heh heh --- ;)

jimh posted 08-24-2001 04:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Is that boat in Charlevoix?

I think I saw one like it up there this summer.


Mullet posted 08-24-2001 08:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mullet  Send Email to Mullet     
Pardon me, do you happen to have any Grey Poupon?
OutrageMan posted 08-24-2001 08:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for OutrageMan  Send Email to OutrageMan     

The boat has been kept right here in Ephraim. If it made it that far north, I wasn't with it :)

lhg posted 08-24-2001 09:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Ah, yes, Mr Blazer, can I interest you in looking at a new Whaler Impact 11 Tender for your yacht?

If you hadn't arranged and hosted such a tremendous Rendezvous in Door County, you really would be in the Dog House!

bdb posted 08-24-2001 10:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for bdb  Send Email to bdb     
Whoa is me...

It is me...Harpoon Harry Hangin' His Head...Hat in Hand...

You parents out there, you know what I'm going through. The "Outrageman" moniker is retired. JimH could you please change his profile to read "Moppie Breath?"

Whoa is me...

A parent tries so hard...and yet you never know.

Whoa is me...

The kid was raised on Whalers. Whalers and Alumacrafts. Two heart and soul fundamental boats. Yup, learned how to run boats on Whalers, learned how to tie lines on Whalers, learned how to ski behind Whalers. Learned how to disdain other boats on Whalers. Am I to blame?

Whoa is me...

Well, his aunt still has a Whaler, his uncles still have Whalers, cripes, even his mother has a Whaler. Not to mention his father's notorious "Mystery Harpoon."

JimH could you please change my profile to "Whoa Begone Heavy Hearted Harpoon Harry?"


Hey! But you never know! Lots of times these kids come around! You know, the prodigal son thing!

Hey..the Ol Harpoon Has Hope again!

kingfish posted 08-24-2001 10:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     

That's "Gucci" - but I got to tell you, now that I've seen "Goochie" in print, I like it a lot better...

And HH - I've got a son who went off to *Michigan State* for godsake, and him with all that maize and blue blood in him...I, like you, can only hope that some day he will see the light...

Keep the faith-


lhg posted 08-24-2001 10:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Yes, "Goochie" is much more appropriate for the Bertram/Hatteras crowd, especially the ones who don't fish.
bigz posted 08-25-2001 06:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
Let me thank "KingF" for the spell check, I just could never get that family name right, for some reason! ---;-}

{Rumor has it that "KF" has a very "yacht-ie" wardrobe he secrets away, only to be used on his exotic travels out of sight of the Whaler bunch}

Now I must say "this about that" ----- the Bertram Moppie is little more tuned to--- say the Riviera, Monaco, or a Florida Gold Coast craft than hmm -- Ephraim WI! ----- oh just kidding yeah know ------- the Moppie for what they were designed are definitely a cool civilized boat ---- she would look marvelous Brian if you finish her with a red and green motif

Thank you HH --- your soulful dissertation on parenthood has given me thought --- !!!

I will have to modify my physiological approach to bringing up Amy so that we will be assured of not running into such a mournful desertion when she reaches the age of "reason" ==

As an Aside KF --- I always thought Michigan had only one institution of higher learning --- U of M ---- you all mean to tell me there are actual other ones ?/! ;)

OutrageMan posted 08-25-2001 06:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for OutrageMan  Send Email to OutrageMan     
Ah, yes...

Sipping Sherry, and racing to Bimini!

Wait a minute, I don't drink, and this is a fresh water boat!

Dad, don't be so upset, it is still a Ray Hunt boat.

Bertramp posted 08-25-2001 07:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bertramp  Send Email to Bertramp     
That is actually a very rare Bertram .... and as whaler owner (people who appreciate better boats), we all know he coulda done a lot worse than a Bertram !!
and ...... easy on the Bertram comments ... someones feelings may get hurt !! :(
Clark Roberts posted 08-25-2001 07:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
Outrageman, stay with us! Always enjoy your posts! Just have to say this... "Happy Whalin'".. Clark.. The Old Man and the Sea
kingfish posted 08-25-2001 08:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
I have this personality flaw or something by which odd bits of information are pinned up here and there on the clothes lines of my memory; they're not always associated (at least in any way I'm immediately able to discern) with supporting data or other connections. They just sort of pop up un-announced.

In that vein (oh, here we go: "Humor in a Jugular Vein" - Mad Magazine); anyway, in that vein, I have this factoid floating around that says Bertram claims/claimed that the Moppie was the progenitor of the Deep V hull configuration, or brought it to the public, or something...Anybody confirm that notion, or am I contributing to an urban legend?

And BigZ - you must have me confused with my friend LHG; I think he's the guy with the secret yaghtie wardrobe...

Finally, for the record, I am also only aware of one institution of higher learning in our fair state, although I have heard rumors regarding the claims of others...

Dr T posted 08-25-2001 08:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dr T  Send Email to Dr T     

Hmmmm. Thoughts on parenthood.

Whoa? As in Stop?

Very little you can do to stop kids once they have made their minds up, even though you believe that it will ultimately bring them woe. You just have to let them make their own mistakes.

Look at this way: It gives you a pretty gunnel to put your feet up on when you go to visit. Even though it might sink.


bigz posted 08-25-2001 09:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
Kingfish --- ah ha, no "urban" or for that matter "coastal" legend either -- the year was 1958 and out of a fresh breeze of 20knots with seas running six feet came Ray Hunt in his deep-vee prototype doing a solid 30 knots slicing through those 6 foot seas like a hot knife through butter. This little 23 footer was actually the tender for the 12-meter Easterner both designed by Hunt!

The design was a 24-degree deadrise which was carried all the way to the stern ---

Hunt gave Bertram a demo ride (all the big boys were at Newport for US Cup trials).

Bertram commissioned Hunt to design a 31 footer and Jack Hargrave with a crew of expatriate Cubans built her. She was named Moppie which was Bertram's wife's nickname.

The next stage she was entered in the 1960 Miami to Nassau Race with Sam Griffin and Bertram driving, Calton Mitchell as navigator! She smashed all records in that first event its been told.

Well as they say it's all history now. The legendary line of Moppie's style hulls in all configurations stood the test of time until in 1985 Bertram had to file for bankruptcy. That's another story ---

If you all like these historical tidbits go out and get you a copy of "Heart of Glass" by Daniel Spurr --- a wealth of information will be at your finger tips. Tom

(note this little piece was edited from the afro mentioned book -- more information can be obtained in some detail if you pick up a copy at your local library, sorry I don't think it has been done in a book on tape yet )

kingfish posted 08-25-2001 09:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Thanks, Tom-

I'm both pleased and embarrassed to say I have read (and enjoyed) the book - embarrassed because I had forgotten the reference - that's got to be where that little pearl of wisdom came from.

So, Brian - it looks like you've stayed right in the groove with boats that have significantly affected the entire industry - way to go!

OutrageMan posted 08-25-2001 10:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for OutrageMan  Send Email to OutrageMan     
Yes, this boat does have some historical significance. And as far as sinking goes, as I have said "You may be able to cut a Whaler in thirds and still float, but with the Bertram, you can't cut the hull."

I am actually very excited about the boat. Even though he wont publically admit it, Harpoon - my dad - seems even more excited about it than me.

It just so happens, that the way everything works, it is my first day with the new boat, and we are having monsoon-like rain here.

lhg posted 08-25-2001 01:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
The grief kids give parents! My parents hated boats, and never owned one. I remember when I bought my first boat, the 11th Boston Whaler ever made, a 13 footer, for $300 used. After telling my father about my happy purchase, he called me back, saying he didn't think I could afford to own a boat, and why was it such a little plastic model. (remember most boats back then were wood or aluminum).
He also said that my Mother was very unhappy, and afraid I would kill myself in it. For the next two years, everytime he called, (from Chicago, to me in New York) he asked if I'd sold it yet, or when I was going to get rid of it.

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