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Long Range Montauk
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posted 08-28-2001 01:35 PM ET (US)
Hello, I live in Southern California, right on the Pacific Ocean, I love my Montauk and I love going far out in the ocean. Scuba, Fishing, Pure Excitement, Fun! There are a few Islands that 3 friends and I travel to on a weekly basis, the furthest being 61 miles out to sea. It gets very rough out there and we are feeling the effects of it. We decided to be a little darring last night and went out the San Clemente Island, that is 61 miles out. We got there, rested for 20 minutes and then drove the 3 hours home. We are nuts. I often travel at night due to the distances we go. I have an mile radar, 2 gps, 2 compass, 2 vhf, 27 gallon tank, dual 6 gallon spare tanks, 3 batteries, and a backup jump start portable battery, 4 million candlepower lighting system.....
My question is, how can I make my trips more comfortable, my back is killing me along with my legs and arms, it seems to be getting worse, maybe im too old for this, or I just need a bigger whaler..Does anybody travel long distances with a Montauk? Any info would be great.
Also, anybody down here in so cal, with little whalers that like ocean exploring? lets get a big trip out to Catalina Backside, or something. I have a mooring out there we could use.
posted 08-28-2001 02:08 PM ET (US)
Nothing is going to make your trips more comfortable on the Montauk....besides getting an Outrage
posted 08-28-2001 02:17 PM ET (US)
I agree! The Montauk always will be a rough ride in choppy conditions. They can however handle anything your back can. We had 3-4 foot swells here on Sunday and I was doing circles around a couple of 200hp Lunds. They were getting soaked and I could only laugh!! Where the heck do you put all that stuff? I barely have enough room for my PFD'S and a Beer. Any secret storage tips?
posted 08-28-2001 02:48 PM ET (US)
You say you and 3 friends (4 males?) 39 gallons of fuel, 3 batteries and I guess a sealed rechargeable jumper pack. Plus, I would guess a cooler filled and all your other gear,travel 120 mile round trips out into the Pacific!Daring... I would say
What engine do have on this Montauk?
Even with mega watt lighting what can you see? Or is that just so others see you?
posted 08-28-2001 03:55 PM ET (US)
I have built a storage area in the bow of the boat,it sits about 18 inches above the top of the bow line its kind of an aerodynamic looking strage unit, fibreglass. extra fuel, dive gear, batteries, lights, 6 foot inflatable(deflated)flares, 2 gallons water, PFD's(5) 72 cooler in front of helm, batteries have been relocated to underneath helm, 1 is extra, 1 starts, 1 runs all elecronics, 2 charge at same time, 3 separate volt meters, 1 per battery, so charging and be equally distributed. I also forgot to mention i also have a 15 gallon bait tank mounted port side of helm. i am nuts. the boat pushes very well,(considering) top speed all loaded down is about 30, we cruise at 26, 2 guys sit behind helm, then the other to on the stern bench. i have a 1989, 90hp yamaha, i had the shop sell me a prop that supposedly is made for torque, i dont know the specs..the radar and light system is mounted on an alluminum frame, it mainly bolts to the transom, and is about 7.5 feet high. radar on top, lights on sides, 2 floods, 2 spots, great for spotting stuff in water on very dark nights, sometimes its a little too late though, haha, i have some good stories about that also. im going to try and give the bench seats a little more padding, and the stern bench im going to make a backrest, theis may help out some.
posted 08-28-2001 04:00 PM ET (US)
Clowning is fun isn't it!
If your not then send a photo of this Montauk in to the site webmaster.
posted 08-28-2001 06:12 PM ET (US)
we are goin out this weekend, ill take a few pics for you, its not pretty, but fun as hell
posted 08-28-2001 07:07 PM ET (US)
Hack ; what port are you going out of ? I have a montauk also but I've never seen yours out there. I live in san diego. and go out EVERY sat. 3am to 430am ...
as far as makeing it a better ride try a auto pilot thats what i did.
posted 08-28-2001 07:36 PM ET (US)
Hmmmmmmmm...nothing wrong with a rich fantasy life, eh? I have dreams like this myself, but they always end up badly.
I'm with Sorcerer...let's see some photo's.
posted 08-28-2001 11:02 PM ET (US)
i think your original qurstion was:
"My question is, how can I make my trips more comfortable, my back is killing me along with my legs and arms, it seems to be getting worse, maybe im too old for this, or I just need a bigger whaler..Does anybody travel long distances with a Montauk? Any info would be great."
I seems that you have equiped you boat very well, more than others, But if your questions is about the problem of your back "killing" you, the only thing to do IMO is to get a deeper V boat.
Lots of comments on Dauntless/Outrage CC boats on the Forum.
All the electronics and lights are not going to help. Hull design will. Good Luck
posted 08-29-2001 01:20 AM ET (US)
Try some good shoes and a shock absorbing pad (high density foam) in front of the helm.
posted 08-29-2001 06:00 AM ET (US)
Hack, I fashioned a strap support, sort of like a "window washer's belt" that served me well on many miles of open ocean in a 17! It was a nylon strap about 3" wide that went behind my butt or small of back and the ends fastend via stainless clips to the grab rail on each side. This allowed me to stand and lean back against this strap which kept both hands free for throttle and steering... It was a comfort and also kept me in the boat and at the helm! Also it kept me from depending one the wheel for support... Suggest that you check the screws that hold the console to deck and all grab rail fastenings should be refastened with backing blocks.. Happy Whalin'.. Clark... The Old Man and the Sea
posted 08-29-2001 06:08 AM ET (US)
The montauk is not a old man boat its a young lads boat I take mine out just inn the icw and spend aweek getting over it, But what fun.. I would never dream of taken it off shore but have seen many out there and the other guys are all wet. Thats my biggist complant with whaler is the pounding that the montauk will give you and the boat want run in skinny water. But it a hell of a boat
posted 08-29-2001 08:42 AM ET (US)
hey I'm not clowning. I do go off shore every week. 20 to 40 miles. thats why I put a satellite 406 on board. as far as all the waight I cary. the rule is NO more than one other person with me! or the boat would be over loaded. I allso have 3 batts. two in console, one in frount cooler. gps & chart ploter a must. other safty gear typ 2/3/5 pfds.I have only taken extra fule one time. a 6 gal. have a 24 gal. under seat. next thing will be a radar deflector for the large tankers to see me. as far as the ride ? I adj. the throtal(s/p) and set back the pilot takes me to my way point. plenty of time to talk story with your fishing buddy. agian I'm not clowning
or a trol...
posted 08-29-2001 10:05 AM ET (US)
I believe you just because I have no reason not to. I have seen people do some crazy crap with a small boat. Look at those 3 idiots that drove to So. America in 13'S. No reason to doubt anyone's story here and ask for proof. If he's lying, it is no skin off our noses. Now to answer your questions, yes you are nuts but I admire that. And no there is nothing you can do except get a bigger boat. If you think your back hurts now, wait until you are 50. You will regret what you are doing now. I regret all the days of jumping 6' breakers in Barnegat Inlet for YEARS. Would do it all over again, except for the day I got shin splints. Ouch!
posted 08-29-2001 10:35 AM ET (US)
Clark, you are the man, after reading your post it got me thinking...My helm hand holds are not strong enough yet, but that will work perfectly. also i am going to put rubber matting down , i like to stand up a a lot while driving and this may be the answer, like a wind sailer back support thingy, nice.....Kim, i launch out of huntington beach, dana point or point loma, san diego(shelter island), this weekend will be dana point. We should get a trip going, i would love to get some info on your autopilot, i have never looked into that, sounds interesting.
posted 08-29-2001 03:15 PM ET (US)
Hack, I wish you well but I too live in Orange County and know a little of the waters off San Clemente and the other islands - you can only play the odds so long before you might end up paying the piper...
posted 08-29-2001 11:57 PM ET (US)
ya ! I would like some one to run with. E/M me... lets plan a trip, just talked to a friend who went out last night to the midle grounds in a gayliner trothy (s/p) they got hit by a big swell turned the boat on the side and decided to turn back at 3am. south of the islands ( out of SD) going to be a bit bumpy this weekend.but I will still get my limet like every sat. would you like to give it a try ? E/M me ... this will be my last reply to this post inlest asked to reply.
O BTW I like to fish for table food, I think you are fishing for albacore? or fin fish. I fished them for years comerchaly (s/p)... 1600 bucks per ton when I quit in 1980. lets plan a trip ever been to cortez bank? or the 60 ? ya I use elercit reels, that is the what the third batt. in the foward cooler is for a group 27.
posted 08-30-2001 11:28 AM ET (US)
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