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Dick posted 08-30-2001 07:33 PM ET (US)
At about 0700 this morning an overturned 17' Boston Whaler was discovered off of La Push Washington in heavy fog. There has been no sign of the four passengers. La Push is located on the NW Washington coast and has a very narrow river entrance.
Tom W Clark posted 08-30-2001 09:14 PM ET (US)
We'll never know what really happened but it probably didn't help that they had new VHF.
http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/4pm/onsite.asp?url=/local/37134_whaler30ww.shtml
Dick posted 08-30-2001 09:29 PM ET (US)
If they hit the rocks out there in the fog they would never have had time to use the VHF. One good lesson: When the weather gets bad or fog sets in, put the life jackets on regardless of what boat you are on.
Dick
LarrySherman posted 08-30-2001 10:12 PM ET (US)
Jesus, that is just awful. A Grandfather and his three grandsons. So scary when something like this reminds of how precious every moment we have is. Carpe Diem.
Chris J posted 08-31-2001 11:38 AM ET (US)
Carpe noctum, too.
The CG always pushes VHF radios and life jackets when there is an accident... if they aren't in evidence, it's always "if they had/worn ____ they might have made it" or "they should have had/worn____."
Good advice, but PFDs and radios can't fix everything. Boat flips, you trapped under, you probably dead, radio or PFD notwithstanding.
bigz posted 08-31-2001 12:16 PM ET (US)
No second guessing, just one other key safety point that wasn't addressed.
USCG forgot to mention that the operator should have had the kill switch lanyard snapped on.
The bodies could be miles from where the boat was found.
LarrySherman posted 08-31-2001 12:51 PM ET (US)
bigz,
I agree it might help them find the bodies, but would it save their lives? Also, I never see them being worn. That would be a great poll for Jim, "Do you wear your saftey lanyard when operation your vessal?"
My bet > 75% are "No."
bigz posted 08-31-2001 01:18 PM ET (US)
Saved his/their lives, you ask, I can't answer that now can I! The boat however would be in the vicinity of the accident, it maybe now for all we know. Then again ---------
Yes and no Larry -- depends on the conditions even on the 27 I'll attach it, draw on life jacket when it gets rough or the weather closes in and demand the crew do the same with their jackets(of course Amy wears hers even if she is in the cabin and we're underway, only time on the boat she doesn't if we are tied up -- she has been swimming since she was 3 now 10). On the 13 yes again depending on where and what I'm doing though like all humans forget, I might add probably a lot more important on the 13 than the 27's. The same with our recent 20 Outrage, the same regulations were followed.
I can keep going down the list of boats if you'd like but really hasn't changed much except no kills on the ones in the 50's through the 70's.
Anyway it is a morbid subject.
I'll end on this note ----sincerely hope all have a fun and safe Labor Day weekend --- Tom
(finally I'll be installing a new head on the 27 WA --- oh joy oh joy --- )


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Author	Topic: Another Whaler Tradgedy
Dick	posted 08-30-2001 07:33 PM ET (US) At about 0700 this morning an overturned 17' Boston Whaler was discovered off of La Push Washington in heavy fog. There has been no sign of the four passengers. La Push is located on the NW Washington coast and has a very narrow river entrance.
Tom W Clark	posted 08-30-2001 09:14 PM ET (US) We'll never know what really happened but it probably didn't help that they had new VHF. http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/4pm/onsite.asp?url=/local/37134_whaler30ww.shtml
Dick	posted 08-30-2001 09:29 PM ET (US) If they hit the rocks out there in the fog they would never have had time to use the VHF. One good lesson: When the weather gets bad or fog sets in, put the life jackets on regardless of what boat you are on. Dick
LarrySherman	posted 08-30-2001 10:12 PM ET (US) Jesus, that is just awful. A Grandfather and his three grandsons. So scary when something like this reminds of how precious every moment we have is. Carpe Diem.
Chris J	posted 08-31-2001 11:38 AM ET (US) Carpe noctum, too. The CG always pushes VHF radios and life jackets when there is an accident... if they aren't in evidence, it's always "if they had/worn ____ they might have made it" or "they should have had/worn____." Good advice, but PFDs and radios can't fix everything. Boat flips, you trapped under, you probably dead, radio or PFD notwithstanding.
bigz	posted 08-31-2001 12:16 PM ET (US) No second guessing, just one other key safety point that wasn't addressed. USCG forgot to mention that the operator should have had the kill switch lanyard snapped on. The bodies could be miles from where the boat was found.
LarrySherman	posted 08-31-2001 12:51 PM ET (US) bigz, I agree it might help them find the bodies, but would it save their lives? Also, I never see them being worn. That would be a great poll for Jim, "Do you wear your saftey lanyard when operation your vessal?" My bet > 75% are "No."
bigz	posted 08-31-2001 01:18 PM ET (US) Saved his/their lives, you ask, I can't answer that now can I! The boat however would be in the vicinity of the accident, it maybe now for all we know. Then again --------- Yes and no Larry -- depends on the conditions even on the 27 I'll attach it, draw on life jacket when it gets rough or the weather closes in and demand the crew do the same with their jackets(of course Amy wears hers even if she is in the cabin and we're underway, only time on the boat she doesn't if we are tied up -- she has been swimming since she was 3 now 10). On the 13 yes again depending on where and what I'm doing though like all humans forget, I might add probably a lot more important on the 13 than the 27's. The same with our recent 20 Outrage, the same regulations were followed. I can keep going down the list of boats if you'd like but really hasn't changed much except no kills on the ones in the 50's through the 70's. Anyway it is a morbid subject. I'll end on this note ----sincerely hope all have a fun and safe Labor Day weekend --- Tom (finally I'll be installing a new head on the 27 WA --- oh joy oh joy --- )