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rooster tail posted 09-05-2001 03:10 PM ET (US)
Hello, I have a pretty simple question for all you whaler owners out there. Will the '13 whaler still run fast with 3-4 teenagers in it, about 150 each. I grew up on the water and my family is big on sail boats. As of now I have a 14 foot dory with a 15HP(max for the boat) johnson on it. The boat plains great with 2-3 people on it but any more and it gets sluggish real fast.
Ok so back to the question... what kind of performance will i get out of a 13 foot whaler(with about 4 people on it, 150 each) with say a 40 merc on it?
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Mullet posted 09-05-2001 03:28 PM ET (US)
Cramped but do-able. Have a 1968 13 with a 2000 40 Merc 2 stroke. Not sure what the capacity is but we had family of four 260, 170, 130, and whatever my wife weighs. (she won't tell me) Freeboard was almost negative. It broke up on a plane nicely. However, this was on smooth water close to shore. With 4 people in that boat you can't do anything like fish or ski. If you are wanting to use this as a family boat, don't do it. If you are going to use it on short runs it will work but is pushing it.
rooster tail posted 09-05-2001 04:38 PM ET (US)
I think it will probably server my needs pretty well. I am only 16 and want a small boat that will give good preformance. I would be using it on the Pawkatuck river which seperats CT from RI(FYI). Not much wave action on the river except from big boats going by... occasionaly whitecaps but really no wake to speak of.
Also what is the max HP for a '13? There are a lot of whalers around here and a lot of guys race them against each other.
Tsuriki BW posted 09-05-2001 04:42 PM ET (US)
rooster tail,
Specs can be found at :
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/13/
Mullet posted 09-05-2001 05:10 PM ET (US)
Rooster Tail, one more thing. When I went to re-power I had a fit finding a used motor because of the 15" transom. I am not sure which year they changed them but even buying a new Merc I couldn't get tilt and trim on a 15". Other manufactures may have t&t on a 15" 40. The "newer" 13's have a 20" transom and t&t is no problem to find. Since you mentioned racing thought this may be a consideration. Don't trim it up too far.....Whooa.......Splash!
gnrgunner posted 09-05-2001 05:39 PM ET (US)
I have a 1983 Boston Whaler Sport with a 1988 Yamaha 40 HP. No tilt and trim (although I am contemplating getting a CMC t/t bracket), but this thing flies!! I turned 16 this summer and even though I am legal to drive all boats, the whaler is the perfect boat for me! Alone I can get it over 35 mph! Not sure exact speed because my analog speedo only goes to 35. Every 150 lbs on the boat after counting motor, battery, and gas tanks I have found takes away 3-4 mph on WOT. 4 people and under is fine for this boat, any more and it does get crowded like Mullet said. Max hp is 40 and I'm pretty sure that they changed the interior color from light blue to desert tan and the transom height from 15" (short shaft) to 20" (long shaft) in 1972 or so. Spent all summer on my boat, used a TON of gas $. Can get a skier up w/2 people in the boat even with a 25, but it's much easier w/a 40. Good luck.
dchris2 posted 09-06-2001 07:05 PM ET (US)
I have the 13' '01 sport package with 40 hp 2 cycle merc. With 3 slightly overweight adults and 2 children it is slightly slow to plane, but I definitely have to throttle back so that I am not going too fast. I have some doubts about ability to pull a skier, but it's fine for tubing. I grew up wtih a 14' skiff with a 9.9 evinrude. The new sport hull is different from the classic hull, and is inferior on this board. 40 is max recommended hp and does well. I think I would have been just as happy with the 25 hp Honda, but I'm not 16 anymore. This is the perfect boat for you. It will last until you can truely afford a boat in you 40's and is easy to tow and handle alone.
george nagy posted 09-06-2001 08:23 PM ET (US)
I grew up in a 13' 15'and a montauk. I was 15 when I got my 15' sport and loved it! for ten years. While the 13' is a great boat the 15' hull rides a whole lot nicer. the 70 hp also gives you a great deal of power to pul skiiers etc... I did not own a 13' or a montauk but found that there was great deal of differece in performance between the 13' and 15' than the 15' and 17' although it was nice to be able to stand in the montauk, which is the main reason whay 10 years later I moved up to my 18' outrage. My choice would be a 15' over a 13' especially a 15i center console with a raised rear casting deck. You could have that boat and be compfrtable for a long time.
Good luck either way and remember all whaler models are great and far more superior to other brands! even the new ones!
CarlRobert posted 09-06-2001 10:23 PM ET (US)
I have a 1962 13' Sport with a 2002 Merc 4 stroke 40 hp 20" shaft with pt&t. I used CMC vertical extensions to accommodate the motor on my 15" transom.
I also have a wife and 3 growing kids who love to be in the boat. With all of us, a 6 gallon tank of gas, 12 v battery, tube, picnic lunch, extra clothing, towels etc in the boat, there is scant room to move about! The craft is not overloaded, just cramped.
I have no trouble getting on plane with this configuration, usually at half throttle. With a stainless steel 4 blade 14 pitch prop the boat pops onto plane and zips along nicely.
Last weekend with just a friend and myself in the boat, we measured our speed at WOT at 36 MPH on GPS. Plenty fast for me! The four blade props really "grabs" the water in high speed turns.
I love the boat for fishing/cruising with my kids, by myself or with another adult.
I love the 13' dearly, but I did see a 15' sport the other day that set my heart racing...
Carl R.
lhg posted 09-06-2001 10:29 PM ET (US)
Carl R - Is that the new Mercury 4 blade Trophy Sport prop? I hear they're a great propeller for the small gearcase outboards, 30-60HP.
CarlRobert posted 09-06-2001 10:42 PM ET (US)
lhg,
Affirmative! I am very pleased with the prop's performance. My next installation is a tachometer.
I am compiling pics of my set up and 'action' shots to send to jimh (I've got to get a digital camera!)
Carl R

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Author	Topic: over loaded
rooster tail	posted 09-05-2001 03:10 PM ET (US) Hello, I have a pretty simple question for all you whaler owners out there. Will the '13 whaler still run fast with 3-4 teenagers in it, about 150 each. I grew up on the water and my family is big on sail boats. As of now I have a 14 foot dory with a 15HP(max for the boat) johnson on it. The boat plains great with 2-3 people on it but any more and it gets sluggish real fast. Ok so back to the question... what kind of performance will i get out of a 13 foot whaler(with about 4 people on it, 150 each) with say a 40 merc on it? Any help is greatly appreciated.
Mullet	posted 09-05-2001 03:28 PM ET (US) Cramped but do-able. Have a 1968 13 with a 2000 40 Merc 2 stroke. Not sure what the capacity is but we had family of four 260, 170, 130, and whatever my wife weighs. (she won't tell me) Freeboard was almost negative. It broke up on a plane nicely. However, this was on smooth water close to shore. With 4 people in that boat you can't do anything like fish or ski. If you are wanting to use this as a family boat, don't do it. If you are going to use it on short runs it will work but is pushing it.
rooster tail	posted 09-05-2001 04:38 PM ET (US) I think it will probably server my needs pretty well. I am only 16 and want a small boat that will give good preformance. I would be using it on the Pawkatuck river which seperats CT from RI(FYI). Not much wave action on the river except from big boats going by... occasionaly whitecaps but really no wake to speak of. Also what is the max HP for a '13? There are a lot of whalers around here and a lot of guys race them against each other.
Tsuriki BW	posted 09-05-2001 04:42 PM ET (US) rooster tail, Specs can be found at : http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/13/
Mullet	posted 09-05-2001 05:10 PM ET (US) Rooster Tail, one more thing. When I went to re-power I had a fit finding a used motor because of the 15" transom. I am not sure which year they changed them but even buying a new Merc I couldn't get tilt and trim on a 15". Other manufactures may have t&t on a 15" 40. The "newer" 13's have a 20" transom and t&t is no problem to find. Since you mentioned racing thought this may be a consideration. Don't trim it up too far.....Whooa.......Splash!
gnrgunner	posted 09-05-2001 05:39 PM ET (US) I have a 1983 Boston Whaler Sport with a 1988 Yamaha 40 HP. No tilt and trim (although I am contemplating getting a CMC t/t bracket), but this thing flies!! I turned 16 this summer and even though I am legal to drive all boats, the whaler is the perfect boat for me! Alone I can get it over 35 mph! Not sure exact speed because my analog speedo only goes to 35. Every 150 lbs on the boat after counting motor, battery, and gas tanks I have found takes away 3-4 mph on WOT. 4 people and under is fine for this boat, any more and it does get crowded like Mullet said. Max hp is 40 and I'm pretty sure that they changed the interior color from light blue to desert tan and the transom height from 15" (short shaft) to 20" (long shaft) in 1972 or so. Spent all summer on my boat, used a TON of gas $. Can get a skier up w/2 people in the boat even with a 25, but it's much easier w/a 40. Good luck.
dchris2	posted 09-06-2001 07:05 PM ET (US) I have the 13' '01 sport package with 40 hp 2 cycle merc. With 3 slightly overweight adults and 2 children it is slightly slow to plane, but I definitely have to throttle back so that I am not going too fast. I have some doubts about ability to pull a skier, but it's fine for tubing. I grew up wtih a 14' skiff with a 9.9 evinrude. The new sport hull is different from the classic hull, and is inferior on this board. 40 is max recommended hp and does well. I think I would have been just as happy with the 25 hp Honda, but I'm not 16 anymore. This is the perfect boat for you. It will last until you can truely afford a boat in you 40's and is easy to tow and handle alone.
george nagy	posted 09-06-2001 08:23 PM ET (US) I grew up in a 13' 15'and a montauk. I was 15 when I got my 15' sport and loved it! for ten years. While the 13' is a great boat the 15' hull rides a whole lot nicer. the 70 hp also gives you a great deal of power to pul skiiers etc... I did not own a 13' or a montauk but found that there was great deal of differece in performance between the 13' and 15' than the 15' and 17' although it was nice to be able to stand in the montauk, which is the main reason whay 10 years later I moved up to my 18' outrage. My choice would be a 15' over a 13' especially a 15i center console with a raised rear casting deck. You could have that boat and be compfrtable for a long time. Good luck either way and remember all whaler models are great and far more superior to other brands! even the new ones!
CarlRobert	posted 09-06-2001 10:23 PM ET (US) I have a 1962 13' Sport with a 2002 Merc 4 stroke 40 hp 20" shaft with pt&t. I used CMC vertical extensions to accommodate the motor on my 15" transom. I also have a wife and 3 growing kids who love to be in the boat. With all of us, a 6 gallon tank of gas, 12 v battery, tube, picnic lunch, extra clothing, towels etc in the boat, there is scant room to move about! The craft is not overloaded, just cramped. I have no trouble getting on plane with this configuration, usually at half throttle. With a stainless steel 4 blade 14 pitch prop the boat pops onto plane and zips along nicely. Last weekend with just a friend and myself in the boat, we measured our speed at WOT at 36 MPH on GPS. Plenty fast for me! The four blade props really "grabs" the water in high speed turns. I love the boat for fishing/cruising with my kids, by myself or with another adult. I love the 13' dearly, but I did see a 15' sport the other day that set my heart racing... Carl R.
lhg	posted 09-06-2001 10:29 PM ET (US) Carl R - Is that the new Mercury 4 blade Trophy Sport prop? I hear they're a great propeller for the small gearcase outboards, 30-60HP.
CarlRobert	posted 09-06-2001 10:42 PM ET (US) lhg, Affirmative! I am very pleased with the prop's performance. My next installation is a tachometer. I am compiling pics of my set up and 'action' shots to send to jimh (I've got to get a digital camera!) Carl R