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Eric Hinz posted 09-09-2001 09:19 AM ET (US)   Profile for Eric Hinz   Send Email to Eric Hinz  
I recently acquired a well-worn 13' Whaler (my first Whaler), and am curious about the 'cleats' mounted on the inner transom (2) and bow (1). Obviously they are useful as a traditional cleat for tying up to a dock. I'm wondering if they are also designed for heavier loads, specifically lifting the boat (as from a davit) or towing (either towing of the Whaler (bow cleat) or towing other boats (stern cleats)).

Before leaving, let me thank everyone for their contributions on other threads. This site is a great resource for the owner new to Whalers!


bigz posted 09-09-2001 09:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
I believe your writing about the lifting "eyes". The bow is also used in some cases to secure the bitter end of your anchor rode.
Wagon1 posted 09-09-2001 09:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for Wagon1  Send Email to Wagon1     
Hi Eric, Welcome!! Please see Cetacea page 34. You will see a lrg whale being lifted exactly as you describe. My 13 is also old ('bout 30 years) and I would probably not be to eager to tow anyone bigger than that. If the cleat gives in the boat you are towing, you have a very deadly missle heading your way. There is a very lengthy thread from a few months ago discussing towing in general. I think I would offer the radio or the phone to someone in need, but would leave the towing to the big boys.
Tom W Clark posted 09-09-2001 10:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     

I believe you are refering to the "norman pins" which are used as cleats as you surmise. Not to be used for lifting or towing. Use the lifting/towing eyes as Bigz & Wagon1 mention.

Eric Hinz posted 09-09-2001 04:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Eric Hinz  Send Email to Eric Hinz     
Thanks to all for the info.

Norman Pins
Now that I've got the name, I see them referred to in other deck gear. Looks like a great idea (of course--it's a Whaler!).

I hadn't planned on any serious towing, just wanted to know where to tie a line if someone breaks down (hopefully not me).

Lifting Eyes
I have an eye on the interior of the hull (just below the bow Norman Pin) which appears to be thru-bolted to the eye on the exterior of the hull. Would this be a lifting eye, or are they somewhere else (perhaps an option in some years)?


gunnelgrabber posted 09-09-2001 08:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for gunnelgrabber  Send Email to gunnelgrabber     
to eric h,.. affirmative to your question on the bow eye's bolted through other end being used as a lift point. (hope that makes sense.).it's made for that...lm

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