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Drisney posted 09-19-2001 01:30 PM ET (US)
I am thinking of buying a Revenge 1970 diesel I/O with counter rotating inline props....anyone familiar with this boat? good drive train??? thanks, Dave
Bigshot posted 09-19-2001 02:36 PM ET (US)
BW did not make a revenge in 1970, much less with twins?
kingfish posted 09-19-2001 08:26 PM ET (US)
I thought he was talking about twins too, and I was trying to imagine the weight and placement of two diesel engines in a 19' boat - but looking at it again, I think he's talking about a single engine with a duoprop-type outdrive, whatever type of boat it is...
lhg posted 09-20-2001 01:42 PM ET (US)
The boat would at least have to be '74, and it must have been re-powered, fairly recently. Definitely not a factory option back then.
Drisney posted 09-20-2001 01:57 PM ET (US)
Sorry I put the wrong year...it is a 1974. The engine is marked "Chrysler- Nissan" and is an inline 6 cyl diesel. The installation is very clean and looks factory. The outdrive has two props inline and counter rotating. It has two 25 gallon tanks in hull.
Drisney posted 09-21-2001 01:18 PM ET (US)
I just recieved a reply from BW about the '74 Revenge. Mr Bennett says that it was powered with OMC or Mercruiser 165hp engines...Then goes on to say that it is possible that it could have been built as a prototype. But was not an option.,,,Dave
Bigshot posted 09-21-2001 02:29 PM ET (US)
Must be neat. That duo prop is a sweet setup. The 19's were so damn bow heavy that the diesel probably makes them level. Before you do anything, find out how readily available the parts are. Is this a US engine or European, etc. Know a guy that bought a Yamaha diesel I/O and can't get(many) parts for it unless ordered from europe.
ALAN G posted 09-23-2001 11:59 PM ET (US)
I am original owner of a 74 Revenge but it is outboard powered. It is a great boat and I have cruised it from San Diego to Seattle on the west coast and from Maine to Florida on the east coast (trailering/visiting not all the way by water). I have not noticed any bow heaviness. My current engine is a 150 Evinrude and I have a 9.9 aux. I would recommend the boat. The stern drive I cannot comment on.
AZdave posted 09-24-2001 01:30 AM ET (US)
Dave, I had a 1980 International Scout 4x4 with a Nissan inline six cylinder engine. It was an ok engine for the most part. I never really found a local mechanic with a sense of adventure,and the right adaptors to test fuel injectors. So a lot of diagnosis involved hand waving and guesses. Based on its automotive performance, I would expect that it would use 25 to 50% less fuel than a gas engine. I think it held twelve quarts of oil and used a nonstandard cartridge type oil filter. Many engines from this family went into heavy duty forklifts. You might ask around to see whether these businesses could provide parts. The automotive alternator was a specialty item that drove a vacuum pump and was really expensive. I'm not sure what would be used in a marine application. If it has a Hitachi voltage regulator, and you buy it, think about replacing with a solid state Autolite unit. The Hitachi unit is expensive and tends to stick, causing battery and alternator failure. I don't remember the HP rating of my engine. Mine was turbocharged, and might have been just on the high side of 100HP. The naturally asperated version might be in the high 60's. This engine is not like the new Cummins engines with their direct injection and high pressure turbocharging. It might have a role in cruising, but I would have thought in a displacement hull. Good luck. Dave
hamadi posted 05-01-2004 08:44 AM ET (US)
I have yamaha I/O diesel...only problems with drives and neither dealer nor Yamaha Motors gave satisfaction. Drives get frozen with excess metal wear, work done for an intact drive in the period of guarantee was charged because representative claims there was no need to disassemble, components are like new. 65 hours later the drive doesn't work 20 miles from the coast...Yamaha Japan does not reply to my mails because they cannot deal with the problem in north africa..I'm taking legal action and look to change transom plates and drives for US made products.

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Author	Topic: 19 ft Revenge Diesel comments?
Drisney	posted 09-19-2001 01:30 PM ET (US) I am thinking of buying a Revenge 1970 diesel I/O with counter rotating inline props....anyone familiar with this boat? good drive train??? thanks, Dave
Bigshot	posted 09-19-2001 02:36 PM ET (US) BW did not make a revenge in 1970, much less with twins?
kingfish	posted 09-19-2001 08:26 PM ET (US) I thought he was talking about twins too, and I was trying to imagine the weight and placement of two diesel engines in a 19' boat - but looking at it again, I think he's talking about a single engine with a duoprop-type outdrive, whatever type of boat it is...
lhg	posted 09-20-2001 01:42 PM ET (US) The boat would at least have to be '74, and it must have been re-powered, fairly recently. Definitely not a factory option back then.
Drisney	posted 09-20-2001 01:57 PM ET (US) Sorry I put the wrong year...it is a 1974. The engine is marked "Chrysler- Nissan" and is an inline 6 cyl diesel. The installation is very clean and looks factory. The outdrive has two props inline and counter rotating. It has two 25 gallon tanks in hull.
Drisney	posted 09-21-2001 01:18 PM ET (US) I just recieved a reply from BW about the '74 Revenge. Mr Bennett says that it was powered with OMC or Mercruiser 165hp engines...Then goes on to say that it is possible that it could have been built as a prototype. But was not an option.,,,Dave
Bigshot	posted 09-21-2001 02:29 PM ET (US) Must be neat. That duo prop is a sweet setup. The 19's were so damn bow heavy that the diesel probably makes them level. Before you do anything, find out how readily available the parts are. Is this a US engine or European, etc. Know a guy that bought a Yamaha diesel I/O and can't get(many) parts for it unless ordered from europe.
ALAN G	posted 09-23-2001 11:59 PM ET (US) I am original owner of a 74 Revenge but it is outboard powered. It is a great boat and I have cruised it from San Diego to Seattle on the west coast and from Maine to Florida on the east coast (trailering/visiting not all the way by water). I have not noticed any bow heaviness. My current engine is a 150 Evinrude and I have a 9.9 aux. I would recommend the boat. The stern drive I cannot comment on.
AZdave	posted 09-24-2001 01:30 AM ET (US) Dave, I had a 1980 International Scout 4x4 with a Nissan inline six cylinder engine. It was an ok engine for the most part. I never really found a local mechanic with a sense of adventure,and the right adaptors to test fuel injectors. So a lot of diagnosis involved hand waving and guesses. Based on its automotive performance, I would expect that it would use 25 to 50% less fuel than a gas engine. I think it held twelve quarts of oil and used a nonstandard cartridge type oil filter. Many engines from this family went into heavy duty forklifts. You might ask around to see whether these businesses could provide parts. The automotive alternator was a specialty item that drove a vacuum pump and was really expensive. I'm not sure what would be used in a marine application. If it has a Hitachi voltage regulator, and you buy it, think about replacing with a solid state Autolite unit. The Hitachi unit is expensive and tends to stick, causing battery and alternator failure. I don't remember the HP rating of my engine. Mine was turbocharged, and might have been just on the high side of 100HP. The naturally asperated version might be in the high 60's. This engine is not like the new Cummins engines with their direct injection and high pressure turbocharging. It might have a role in cruising, but I would have thought in a displacement hull. Good luck. Dave
hamadi	posted 05-01-2004 08:44 AM ET (US) I have yamaha I/O diesel...only problems with drives and neither dealer nor Yamaha Motors gave satisfaction. Drives get frozen with excess metal wear, work done for an intact drive in the period of guarantee was charged because representative claims there was no need to disassemble, components are like new. 65 hours later the drive doesn't work 20 miles from the coast...Yamaha Japan does not reply to my mails because they cannot deal with the problem in north africa..I'm taking legal action and look to change transom plates and drives for US made products.