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posted 09-29-2001 06:20 AM ET (US)
posted 09-30-2001 10:46 AM ET (US)
Man, Can't tell you how many times I've felt like doing that. Whats the legal limit for jet-skiers.
posted 09-30-2001 12:16 PM ET (US)
I was wondering: Is that the new project boat of one of the forum members in action?
posted 09-30-2001 07:07 PM ET (US)
That ad came out a few years ago and they had it available in a poster...I always kicked myself for not getting it!....Dave
posted 09-30-2001 07:35 PM ET (US)
I use to rece jet ski's got a 1st & 2nd in the heat races and ended up with 10th place at the world finals in lake havesu az. 1987 the 30 nad over class. now with that said I hate the basterds just like most of us . the problum is thet they (the jet skiers) have little or NO boating experance.
NOW are you for a licence for boats? it is coming ? look at this another way it's a easy way for them to tick you & cloect revenu. the way I fight back is not to chang my corse for them (they WILL move ) trust me. It's not the fast eats the slow but the big eats the small.
there are so maney jet skyers in sd. it is like flys in a out house. now din't take me wrong here jet skis are FUN !!! It's the non educated boater. and I must say I am NOT FOR LICENCEs for boaters . ( one more thing for the gov. to screw up ) please excuse my (S/P) as some of you know I have a problem spelling.
posted 09-30-2001 10:52 PM ET (US)
I used to have a jet ski back in 1985 before they got so popular. I tried to be careful and never had any trouble with any boaters with perhaps a few water skiers (Who I think are of the same mentality as the "outlaw" jetskiers). With that said, I think the problem is with popularity, you get bad guys along with the good guys. I had 2 of them cut me off last weekend. I was in the channel heading in , close to the ramps. 2 of them came from the sides , one to the left and one to the right. The shoot right in front of my bow and proceed to do 360's. I have to get off the plane and stop to keep from hitting them. They thought it was funny.
I have also had a few problems with them at the boat ramps. I have started avoiding the city ramps at the river and instead launch at the bay. I have noticed that most of them stay in the river and they do not like the bay for some reason. As far as licence for boats, they already have that here because of a rash of accidents a few years ago. I am sure the people that cause problems will simply refuse to comply so I am not counting on it to help.
posted 09-30-2001 11:45 PM ET (US)
I think this picture was used for
a Scott flyrod promo poster. They
also have a shot of a guy fishing from the wing of a downed Cessna, somewhere in the shallows of the Caribbean- among others.
They sure roped me in to the sport!
posted 10-01-2001 01:47 PM ET (US)
Local Ranger dealer has something similar to that on a t-shirt. It only came in 3XL and the boat in the background was a Ranger.
posted 10-01-2001 02:54 PM ET (US)
I used to have a Bertram 33 -- about 22,000 lbs without extra gear = damn heavy boat. So when I poured on the coal to get out of the hole, the jetskiers (jidiots -- my term) were on me like flies on [x], something about a 4ft wake.... I had one character come within a foot or so of landing in my cockpit. Now it does not take much in the way of brains to figure out what happens to a moron on a jetski hitting a battleship like a Bertram at 30+ mph.
My wife used to just shut her eyes on the flybridge until we were out of the inlet. In some very sadistic way I was always waiting for one to take his last jump. This was in and around Sheepshead Bay in Brooklyn, so the jidiots were outdoing each other to prove how macho they were (whole lot of gold chains and 90 mph haircuts going on). Other times, I would go all the way to the ocean at displacement speed... trailing a HUGE flock of them who were actually calling out to me to speed up and making motions to put the throttle down. Their frustration was hilarious.
With the Outrage they have trouble keeping up, especially in the harbor chop.
posted 10-03-2001 09:40 AM ET (US)
Snow Skiers will identify with the analogy comparing snowboarders to jetskiers.
The "grunge" skateboard attitude some of these reckless little punks have ruined the reputation of the entire sport. But lets face it... the same schmucks behind the wheel of a fast Whaler is just as dangerous.
As an aside, Vermont, several years ago, banned PWCs on all but 17 bodies of water in the state.
NJ requires liscences for all boat drivers ($6 worth of extortion) but PWCs also have to complete the Coast Guard approved class (10 Week course). I think this commitment has slowed the impulse sales to the testosterone-charged 17-21 year old males.
posted 10-03-2001 11:56 AM ET (US)
I had my wife and in-laws in my Nauset this summer for an afternoon boat ride. We were on our way out Longboat Pass (Bradenton, FL), and a couple of these guys made a run for my wake. Pegged the throttle on the 90 horse, and left them back in the wake. Nice to be able to run off and leave them behind.
posted 10-03-2001 11:25 PM ET (US)
In NJ, the jetskiers only need the abbreviated course for the certificate. Some of them actually take the full course.
Unfortunately, no-one has the cojones to ban them completely.
posted 10-04-2001 07:40 AM ET (US)
Eric; you must have one fast boat. in the mid 80s are jet skis were running over 50 miles a hr and these were stand up modles 550s they are much faster now! we used a radar gun to see how fast they were going.this was also usedfor r&d of new products. I think if they wanted to they could pass you up and be waiting for you every 1/4 mile .
posted 10-04-2001 11:02 AM ET (US)
If your 550 did 50mph it must have been modified. I had the smaller jet ski back in 85 and it did about 32mph. The guys with the 550's were faster , but not that much faster, maybe 10 mph max. My 14' Mckee craft would outrun them and it was good for about 45mph with a Mercury 60. Boat report just did a test on Kawaski's fastest jet ski ever and it did 60mph. Which is way faster than I would want to fall off at :)
posted 10-04-2001 01:12 PM ET (US)
60 MPH wipeout, can you say enema? FYI! My 1985 550 did about 35 stock. bored, carbed, K&N, ride plate, scoop grate, header and SS prop, Maybe 40-42 but much better holeshot.
posted 10-04-2001 02:18 PM ET (US)
Well.......I used to claim near 50 MPH, but with the GPS I can verify about 44. I do have a really quick hole shot, and can get from idle to 5500 RPM in a few seconds. They might have been able to catch me but they would've had to work at it. They were about 75 feet away when I hit the throttle, and didn't look like they were ready for the move I made. From what I've seen of the PWCs around here, my boat runs with nearly any of them, and faster than some. That may be due to the fact that there are a lot of rentals, and I'm sure they don't have the fastest craft around.
posted 10-04-2001 04:41 PM ET (US)
The moment there is some serious chop out there, all but the most moronic "jidiot" will back off. So in practice a fast Whaler can often out-gun a jetski: he can't remain in contact with the water. On a calm day, the big jetskis will comfortably blow off most any Whaler, including mine (when I am not having an Opti-maalox moment) and I have 2x225 on the transom. But can they fish?
posted 10-04-2001 07:41 PM ET (US)
But not mine!
posted 10-04-2001 11:34 PM ET (US)
Boy I het a nerve here. YA THEY were mods.have you ever herd of Jeff Jacobs a 6+ IJSBA WORLD CHAMPION ?
bigshot you almost have it right . the bore no bigie. bump the compershon way up. raise the exust and lower the intake/mod the carp to a side draft then/? depending on your size the pipe ??? there were lots of them ( short for fast rev. long for power )
finding the right pipe was only of the equesions(s/p)
now the pump extrude hone ? ya1 the best pump was the 440 pump. I nused a 550 one w/ a SS prop... now in is important to shim them propley. well I'm goning on about old times here 1987.
we always wore helmets when we pratcing. I get the felling you guys can't belive any thing I say !!! WHY IS THAT ??? I WILL TELL ALL OF YOU THAT ONE THING ( I DO NOT NOT LYE ) if I lye I will just have to tell one more to cover it up. I WIIL NOT !!!
I had to go down page to get the rest of the responce.
eric , rentals are slower than others, some of the sit downs are going well over 60 close to 65/70 now this speed is me coming in down swell at 34/35 /mph pasing me like I'm standing still.. as far as the radar gun, my boat
went 46 mph at the best I had her runing. jeff's practice boat ran 53 mph. this was at the river. he never let me see what his race boat did as he only ran it for R&D and the races. now there is more than a big or a good engion . on the stand up models the hull is very imporant. at speeds over 40 mph it will throw you off. and then you have a ENEME (S/P) right big.
shaveing the hull is standerd on the stand ups can't say on the sit downs,
jurisprocenz (s/p) hope I got it right . they can't catch fish? I have seen them fishing off the sit down modles in the kelp beds here in san diego. these are not your races most of the time.
not a lot of these type . but each to his owen.
last thing a good sit down can run with most fast ski boats if not beating them.and getting faster!!! scarry. ther should be a limit on there speed . from thr manafacther(s/p) I think
the novis is NOT READY FOR THIS HORSE POWER !!! or moveabilty. please excuse my spelling .
posted 10-05-2001 10:34 AM ET (US)
I used to get all those jacobs catalogs etc. Bought most of my crap used from some joint in TX. They had the record back then of 73mph on a standup. SICK! Standups are REAL PWC's. They never bothered people because there were very few. Most idiots were too stupid to learn how to handle them. They were a true workout. The new sitdowns, BORING! I will NEVER own another PWC again because I do not have time to fix the darn things.
posted 10-05-2001 10:40 AM ET (US)
No, Kim, you're right. I have seen some dudes fishing off of their jetskis in Ft Lauderdale and the Keys too -- it looks like fun, provided that you don't catch any sharks or other fish with a taste for getting their own back. However, I have yet to see one try that around Boston.... Mid-summer the water gets to about 62 degrees, no more. And when the wind kicks up, it doesn't even bear thinking about. You'd need a survival suit to make it on a jetski at any other time of the year.
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