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John from Madison CT posted 09-29-2001 09:53 PM ET (US)   Profile for John from Madison CT   Send Email to John from Madison CT  

I'm hot on the trail of a used Montauk. It's been way to many years since I've had one and I'm finally close to closing a deal. Anyway, it looks like I'll have to buy a trailer for this one. I don't know what to ask for in a Montauk trailer and a couple of places I called where telling me I needed this or that, some said rollers, some bunks.

You tell me guys. What kind of load capacity and bunks or rollers. I don't need the best, but what is functional.

The boat I'm looking at is an '89 with an '89 Yamaha 90hp Outboard. It's a very very clean boat and spotless motor with all the neat features I want. (i.e. Bow rails, Whaler cooler seat in front with back pads and rod holders, etc. etc.) They're asking $7500 for the rig. I think it's a decent deal. What do you guys think??

Thank for your help.


whalernut posted 09-30-2001 08:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Sounds like a good deal on a clean Montauk!! As far as trailers go, Loadrite trailers are made in Easten PA. They make a trailer exclusivly for the Montauk! It`s not on their website, but they do make it on request, a combo of Bunks and the all important Keel rollers. I believe they are about $1500. Go to their site and punch up dealer search. If they dealer sais Loadrite doesn`t make one for you`re Whaler, they just don`t know it, I had this problem until the dealer talked to a Loadrite Rep. Good luck-Jack Graner.
JBCornwell posted 09-30-2001 09:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
I'm not familiar with Loadrite, but I agree that you need keel rollers as well as bunks or bottom rollers.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

whalernut posted 09-30-2001 10:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
I don`t think Loadrite sells as far as Texas, but I could be wrong?? They are of the Shorelander quality! Regards-Jack Graner.
Dick posted 09-30-2001 10:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
I've got a galvanized Shorelander under my Montauk, very good quality trailer. Mine is a full bunk trailer, I'm one of those that doesn't believe in keel rollers. Either way you can't go wrong with Shorelander.
andygere posted 09-30-2001 12:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
I have a galvanized keel roller Shoreline under my '79 Montauk, and I really like this style of trailer. One big advantage of rollers over bunks is the ability to slide the boat off the trailer onto blocks for bottom painting, cleaning or repairs. I just did it last week, and it was a piece of cake. I think it would be difficult if not impossible with a bunk style trailer. Just something to think about.
Kim posted 09-30-2001 07:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for Kim  Send Email to Kim     
my vote is shorlander but no rollers. no need for them , skids are fine. I've seen roller put dents in hills befor on jet boats . I'm very happy with my shorlander galvy.
John from Madison CT posted 09-30-2001 08:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for John from Madison CT  Send Email to John from Madison CT     
One more question you know what weight trailer I should get? What's the weight of a Montauk with a V4 OMC outboard?

Thanks again for your help in advance.


whalernut posted 09-30-2001 08:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
I believe the minimum trailer capacity needed would be about 1500 lbs., but would think to be better with a trailer rated for about 1800-2000 lbs., you never know, stuff adds up!! Good luck-Jack Graner.
LarrySherman posted 09-30-2001 10:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for LarrySherman  Send Email to LarrySherman     

See the bug bit you good! Glad to see it. We'll have to meet up next summer!

RWM posted 09-30-2001 10:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for RWM  Send Email to RWM     
I bought a Loadrite for my 1979 Montauk this summer. It is all hot dipped galvanized with plastic fenders and sealed tailights. It came as a bunk trailer for a Montauk but I had them add poly keel rollers and an extra center brace with keel roller. Three keel rollers contact the boat plus two 2"x6"x8' bunks. I also got 14 inch tires. The model number is 17-2200 90V. The standard capacity is 2200 lbs, but with the extras it's now 2700 lbs. I am very happy with it. Easy off and on and tows well. Cost was $1690. I think there are many trailers out there that would work fine, and I do believe for a whaler the keel rollers are the way to go...Bob M.
John from Madison CT posted 10-01-2001 07:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for John from Madison CT  Send Email to John from Madison CT     

Yep, your to blame my friend !! <G>

I found a 22' Outrage Cuddy with a 225 Yamaha, it's an '88 package. Their asking 15K with trailer. Hmmmmm, what do you think?
It's in CT.


Kim posted 10-01-2001 08:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for Kim  Send Email to Kim     
when I said no rolles. keel rollers yes ! but not rollers that cradle the boat like a E-Z LOADER trailer. sorry .
Bigshot posted 10-01-2001 11:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
I like alum bunk trailers myself. They are lighter than steel and look prettier too. Mine is a tow Master that is rated for up to 3500llbs or so. Cast was about 41700 with the torsion axle and Stainless bolt kit.
Peter posted 10-01-2001 12:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     

To give you an idea, there's an 88 22' Outrage cuddy in Branford with twin 130 Yamahas, no trailer advertised for 16k. So it definately seems to be in the ball park. Watch out generally for corrosion on the V6 Yamahas of that era. They are fairly well known to have shift rod corrosion problems. It's an expensive repair to replace the shift rod. A buddy had to do it on his '89 Yamaha 225 Excel on a '89 Grady recently.

JFM posted 10-01-2001 01:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
My 2000 montauk came with a Sorelande double bunk on each side. Dealer says thats what Whaler now recomends.Regards, Jay
dauntlass 18 posted 10-01-2001 06:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for dauntlass 18  Send Email to dauntlass 18     
Load Rite has a 800# 1 800 562 3783 they told me they make exact fit trailers for Boston Whaler boats.I have a Load Rite trailer for my Whaler it has been trouble free so far app. 2500 mi use .Just make sure dealer adjusts bunks and keel rollers to fit hull properly
simonmeridew posted 10-01-2001 08:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for simonmeridew  Send Email to simonmeridew     
I have a '99 LoadRite for my Montauk. Keel rollers and bunks for lateral stability. The boat sits nice and low on the trailer, with about an inch or so to spare between the fenders, but every time I load the boat on, it automatically goes to the center of the keel rollers, whether I drive it on, or winch it up. Never had to slide it back off and reload. Really nice situation.
Two things though: the boat sit's so low you need to tilt the motor when you trailer the boat, when the motor's down, the skeg doesn't clear the ground by much. And the second thing. The taillights got rusty inside so the lights stopped working this Fall. Not so great for a two year old trailer. I may be looking at replacement LED lights this long cold winter.
LarrySherman posted 10-01-2001 09:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for LarrySherman  Send Email to LarrySherman     
Get the Cuddy! Get a compression test, run the motor, and get THE CUDDY!

Your kids will appriciate the room, and so will you!

triblet posted 10-01-2001 11:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
> I believe the minimum trailer capacity
> needed would be about 1500 lbs., but would
> think to be better with a trailer rated
> for about 1800-2000 lbs., you never know,
> stuff adds up!! Good luck-Jack Graner.

Trailers are rated GROSS, including the
weight of the traler. Even 2000 pounds isn't
enough. Montauk weighs 925, 90 HP Everrude
2 stroke 335, 24 gallons of gas 168, 40
pounds for the battery = 1468. Add anchor,
electronics, oil tank, safety gear, etc,
and it's over 1500 no sweat. Net. The trailer
weighs several hundred pounds. The gross
weight capacity of my trailer, IIRC, is
2300 or so.

It's a Shoreland'r (the correct spelling)
with two bunks.


jimh posted 10-02-2001 12:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Chuck's advice is good advice--don't skimp on the trailer. Many dealer-delivered boats come on marginal trailers because they are trying to hold the package price-point down (or keep profits up).

With a trailerable boat, the ease that you can haul the boat on the trailer, launch it, and recover it will all have great impact on how much you use the boat and how much you enjoy using it.

One advantage to trailers using keel rollers is they don't have to be buried underwater to recover the boat. This often makes the difference between where the winch handle is versus where the water is. I know on my trailer, which was originally a "float-on" style trailer, it is impossible to get the boat on the trailer without having to put on my waders and get into the water. Guys with all keel roller trailers seem to be able to stand on dry land and winch their boats up; I am two feet into the water cranking mine.
(Please don't respond with comments on "power loading" because it is prohibited at every ramp I use in the state of Michigan.) This is not a problem on a hot day in August, but it is not too inviting on a cold afternoon in March or November.

Also look for quality tires and wheels. The Goodyear Marathon Special Trailer Radial is a popular top-of-the-line tire. Also consider the size of the wheels. Larger tires (14-inch) mean better performance at highway towing speeds. Avoid little 12-inch wheels/tires, unless you only need to tow a mile or two.

A Montauk trailer might be right on the borderline for trailer brakes. I would judge that depending on the towing vehicle. If you plan to tow with a marginal vehicle, brakes might make sense.

Make sure you get a suitable winch.

If you get keel rollers (which I recommend) you should upgrade to the STOLTZ brand poly rollers. Watch out for imitations; there are some other no-brand yellow poly rollers being sold these days. One problem with these is they are a different size than the Stoltz. If you have to replace them it could be hard to match them up.

If you are going to be in salt water, get all stainless steel hardware as much as possible, including the axles for the rollers.

Except for a few national brands, trailers often tend to be a locally supplied item because it is hard to ship them at reasonable costs. Generally the only way to make economical delivery of a trailer is to have three or more of them stacked up and towed to a drop point. Having a single trailer delivered is pretty expensive, thus many local sources are used for trailers instead of 'brand" name ones. You might have a great trailer fabricator in your area--check it out.

And. of course, you have already read the lengthy multi-part article I wrote on trailers, right?


John from Madison CT posted 10-02-2001 07:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for John from Madison CT  Send Email to John from Madison CT     
To All,

You guys are the BEST !! Thanks for all your help. I'm negotiating on an '89 Montauk with a '89 Yammie 90hp. The boat clearly has little use. No stess cracks or spider cracks, clean clean boat. I offered $6500 w/o trailer and am waiting for a response. The motor was maintained by a high priced marina in CT and the boat was owned by a NY'er who only used it during the summer and on weekends. I saw the complete 12 year repair/maintenance record of the motor. (Eckk ..these marina's charge a bundle.)
LARRY S. : I'd love to have that 22' Outrage, but the timing is just not right. Soon it will be, but for now, the Montauk is all I need. I would hope in 2-3 years that I could sell it for close to what I paid.

Thanks again all for your advice. I'm looking at a trailer with bunks and keel rollers.

John from Madison, CT

Bullbay posted 10-03-2001 09:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bullbay  Send Email to Bullbay     
I have a 2000 Fastload aluminum float on trailer for my 89 Montauk with a 2000 Evinrude Ficht. The GVWR is 2800 lbs and the Net carrying capacity is 2400 lbs. I traded an old keel roller galvanized that I got with the boat last year for $1000 net in Mt Pleasant SC. The trailer man adjusted to the Montauk and it made a complete difference in enjoyment and ease of launching and loading. I have never gotten wet either launching or loading and I don't power load. I simply put trailer in water up the the plastic v in front which allows plenty of walk on room. The back wheels of my truck have never been in water with this method on any of the ramps that I have been on including fresh and salt water after reading Tribletts advise last year.
ALAN G posted 10-06-2001 07:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for ALAN G  Send Email to ALAN G     
topic is well covered but whatever trailer you wind up with, here are some recommendations for use that I have found make a big difference.
1. Bearing Buddies or equivalent hub grease system is a must.
2. Put down a couple of walking boards on the trailer from as far forward as you can to the rear....I put mine on both sides of the keel rollers.
3. JimH recommended Stoltz rollers...ditto. To make these even better, I drilled a couple grease passages and added zerk fittings. The roller shafts are usually mild steel and drilling down the axis and then at right angles will give you a great lubrication point and your Whaler will slide into and out of the water real easy.

Lots more could be written about trailering but don't forget to tighten your lug nuts! I almost lost a tire on the Connecticut Turnpike because I did not check this!

alvispollard posted 10-12-2001 10:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for alvispollard  Send Email to alvispollard     
Long makes a galvanized trailer for an 18' boat. It has the roller for the weight and 4 bunks for stability. Small but adequate guide rollers. Fiberglass wheel wells. 14" tires make long trips easy. Can handle a 1000 lb larger boat. Very satisfied for past 7 years. Montauk fits perfect with this fully adjustable trailer.
John from Madison CT posted 10-13-2001 07:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for John from Madison CT  Send Email to John from Madison CT     

Muchas Gracias !! I've since bought the boat for $7K. I took a sea trial yesterday and the engine ran well, tached out at 5300RPMS (Spec was 5000 - 5500) and idled down at 600 RPMS very well.
I ordered a Load Rite trailer which has 4 keel rollers and 2 bunks.

Plenty of fishing left up here in CT. Went with a friend yesterday and caught 2 Stripers (37" & 28") and a boat load of 10-12lb. Bluefish.

John from Madison, CT

boaterguy posted 10-13-2001 02:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for boaterguy  Send Email to boaterguy     
Was that the montauk at boats inc. That was a great deal! Did you get those stripers in the race?
John from Madison CT posted 10-13-2001 04:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for John from Madison CT  Send Email to John from Madison CT     

Yes, the boat I just bought was the one from Boats Inc.. I managed to only get $500 off the asking price, but I believe it's a pretty good deal at $7000 w/o trailer. I'm buying the 2002 Load Rite from them too. (Probably could have found a better deal but it's easier letting them do the rigging/adjusting and loading from blocks.)
If you saw the boat, you probably noticed that it was clean. No screw holes all over the console and transom area unlike most other Montauks I looked at from this era. The guy who owned it never even installed a depthfinder.(hence little use)
The Stripers I caught came from Meigs Point in Madison. We fished the buoy ~ 3/4 mile off the beach area.

Keep in touch.


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