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Otter posted 10-09-2001 02:07 PM ET (US)   Profile for Otter   Send Email to Otter  
Hello everyone. My name is Mark O., AKA Otter. I Found this great forum the other day from a link on The Hulltruth Forum Page. I am in the market for a 17 foot Montauk, Newport, or similar model in my price range of 4k-10k. I know that's a huge range, but for me, it's not so much what I spend, as much as making sure that the boat is a good value. I will be using the boat in the numerous creeks that flow through marshes around Jacksonville, FL, but still need enough boat to run up and down the St. John's River, which can get pretty rough. I have looked at most everything that floats, and like the Montauk/Newport the best. Any help in the following areas will be very much appreciated.

1.What year models of the Montauk/Newport seem to hold up best?
2. Is there a range of years that are considered the best value?
3. Are the late 80's models better built than early 80's?
4. What year did BW go to all composite construction?
5. What should I be weary of when looking at older hulls?
6. How can I tell if the wood under the fiberglass is really sound, and is not just starting to rot?
7. Did the early models use closed cell foam, like the newer hulls?

Sorry to ask so many questions, but I just want to make sure that I get the right boat.
Thanks again,
Mark

Samars posted 10-09-2001 03:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Samars  Send Email to Samars     
Otter...welcome to the forum...Your question is a complicated one and one you probably wont't get the complete anawer to here. You will find a vast range and wealth of information from past topics..one thing you may consider doing is check back in the forum archives...by searching around from past topics you will find more information than just this single topic. If you spend the time doing this...you will have more than enough information to help you make a decision...take care and good luck...
JFM posted 10-09-2001 03:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Welcome to the forum. One or two questions are OK. But you ask to much. Go through the website like the rest of us and you will find most of your answers. Regards, Jay
Bigshot posted 10-09-2001 04:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Huh? Welcome and enjoy the info. As far as Q's I have 2 A's. Closed cell foam as far as I know was not used in ANY boat until 1978. As far as "good" years They are all good if maintained but if you want the "modern look" aka a smirk hull, Late 1976 and up incorporated this new look.
jimh posted 10-09-2001 04:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
You may benefit from reading the article "Buying A Classic Whaler" which appears in the REFERENCE section of the website.
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/buying.html
GAwhale posted 10-09-2001 05:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for GAwhale  Send Email to GAwhale     
Welcome Otter!

A Montauk sounds like the ideal boat for you. I used to live in Charleston, SC which has similar boating conditions as to what you described. I have seens tons of Montauks there.

You will find a Montauk in your price range. However for that price, the outboard engine may not be reliable.

GAwhale posted 10-09-2001 05:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for GAwhale  Send Email to GAwhale     
Plus the Montauk only draws 9" of water.
Otter posted 10-09-2001 05:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Otter  Send Email to Otter     
Thanks for the responses. I have looked over the site for the past few days, and have learned a lot.
Sorry for all the questions on my very first post... I don't usually ask so much at once...just excited about finding the right Boston Whaler.

Thanks again,
Mark

lhg posted 10-09-2001 06:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
In my estimation, first of all get a Montauk over a Newport. Secondly, I think the best years for the Montauk were 1983 (new console design introduced this year) - 1991. This is assuming you want the Classic teak trimmed interior.

If you prefer a white hull and no teak, you want a 1992-2002.

Hank posted 10-09-2001 10:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hank  Send Email to Hank     
Otter
I use my Montauk some distance south of you between Palm Coast and St. Augustine. A Montauk would definitely be the right choice. I think, however, your choices will be limited by the availability of used Montauks in your area. I know that their availability is limited down here. Nevertheless, your price range sounds right. At the upper end of your price range you should expect a later model engine. I suggest you look around and check back with the forum when you find a candidate. Good luck in your search.
Hank
hardensheetmetal posted 10-09-2001 11:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     
Otter,

Welcome to the forum, I think you are asking all the right questions, and have come the right place to find all the right answers...

That said...

I have been posting to this forum for just shy of a year now, and I can appreciate that some questions get a little repetitive. There is definately a wealth of information in the past threads (maybe even something from me). In the past I have almost always ignored when I disagreed with someone here, but this thread is bugging me. I think it is fine to recommend to someone to check in the past threads, but to tell someone "Go through the website like the rest of us"...Otter came here with some legitimate questions, if you don't have a decent answer for him, then how about not saying anything. To tell him he has to search through thousands of posts is stupid, you make it sound like it would be work to answer his questions. I like posting here and enjoy sharing my limited knowledge with other members, it is actually FUN!

Dan

Traveller posted 10-10-2001 06:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for Traveller  Send Email to Traveller     
Otter -
I test drove a new Montauk at Mayport Marine. The boat was at their fuel dock. My wife, a salesman, and I ran the boat from there east to beyond the Mayport Naval Base, then ran back to Mayport Marine. There was a pretty good chop on the St.John's River, and the boat handled it beautifully. The advantage to the Montauk over the Newport is that you can stand and drive it at the center console. Loved the boat, and will someday get one.
Traveller
JFM posted 10-10-2001 08:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Hardensheetmetal,now I know how you got your name.Many of us have asked questions that have been ignored or not answered. I did not tell him to go through the forum to find his answers but to go through the website. There is a difference in case you don't know. Look at the post below mine and jimh steered him right where to go. I meant no harm to a new member, I welcomed him. He seems like a nice guy unlike a few others. Jay
whalerron posted 10-10-2001 08:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalerron  Send Email to whalerron     
You guys are all wrong! The best "montauk" style boats were those made up until 1970 or so. You just gotta love the blue interiors!
JFM posted 10-10-2001 08:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Whalerron, you also have to like the maintenance of the mahogany interior. Regards, Jay
whalerron posted 10-10-2001 01:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalerron  Send Email to whalerron     
Only real men like to varnish!
Traveller posted 10-10-2001 08:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Traveller  Send Email to Traveller     
I have learned not to inhale!

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