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posted 10-11-2001 12:04 PM ET (US)
I have been looking for news about the impending release of the Blue Water CD. Finally, I just wrote Garmin a letter. Their response follows:
Thank you for contacting GARMIN International. The Blue Chart CD-ROM will be out in November of this year. The Blue Chart CD-ROM will be compatible with the GPSMAP 168 Sounder. Please verify to have the latest firmware update from our website at http://www.garmin.com/support/download.html .
Will the Garmin GPSMAP 168 Sounder ever be upgraded to be compatible with the GARMIN MapSource BlueChart on CD-ROM?
posted 10-11-2001 02:08 PM ET (US)
Wayyyy Coool!! I just bought a 162 GPSMAP and one of the compromises was the lack of compatibility with some of the Mapsource firmware. Now, no compromise.
Red sky at night. . .
posted 10-11-2001 03:25 PM ET (US)
I have been waiting for the blue also.
I have the 162i
posted 10-12-2001 12:32 AM ET (US)
Keep an eye out for a firmware update
for the 162/168 in the next 45 days. There
hasn't been one since March, and I have a
sneaky suspicion that BlueCharts will require
a new one.
Here's a bit more info:
New Product Announcement
MapSource Americas BlueChart (includes CD-ROM and one coverage area) US List
MapSource Atlantic BlueChart (includes CD-ROM and one coverage area) US List
MapSource Pacific BlueChart (includes CD-ROM and one coverage area) US List
"The BlueChart CD-ROM will also be comatible with the eTrex Legend, Vista
"This new CD-ROM format will allow customers to download BlueChart data
"GARMIN's new fixed mount chartplotters have been designed to fully support
posted 12-04-2001 06:04 PM ET (US)
The update is available for the 162/168 here:
Garmin has not released the Blue Water CD yet.
posted 12-04-2001 08:07 PM ET (US)
How will the blue charts differ from the
Mapsource waterways & lights?
I know the current waterways was a step
up from the factory setup.I would hope the
blue charts will have water depths.
posted 12-04-2001 08:44 PM ET (US)
They have much more detail (supposed to look
just like a NOAA chart). There are examples
on Garmin's website. Follow the cartography
They do have bathymetry, I hear.
A couple of days ago someone quoted Garmin
BTW, the chip form of the Blue Charts has
posted 12-05-2001 09:23 AM ET (US)
I am getting confused. I have the 162i and the Mapsouce Waterways CD. I thought the Blue Chart was another CD with More detail that I could buy, is it free? I have been updating my software and unit online as the new versions come out.
Question- is the new update Blue charts or is that another CD I need to buy. Probably the later as why would it be free.
posted 12-05-2001 03:41 PM ET (US)
The update is a firmware change required
to load BlueCharts from the CD into a 162/168
It has a lot of other fixes in it and I'd
recommend installing it even if you don't
have plans to use BlueCharts.
There have been other firmware updates for
The BlueChart CD will cost about $160, and
One more difference between Waterways and
posted 12-06-2001 12:36 AM ET (US)
The BlueChart CDs are out. Darryl at
me tonight that he had limited numbers. I'll
let you know when he gets back to me with
a price. Darryl is a good guy -- I'd asked
a while back if he knew when they would be
out, and he'd filed that old e-mail.
posted 12-06-2001 10:29 AM ET (US)
The BlueChart Americas CD with one unlock
is $110 at TVNav. Additional unlocks are
$85. Atlantic and Pacific are a bit more.
Mine should be here Tuesday. Watch this
posted 12-06-2001 12:41 PM ET (US)
Can the "BlueChart" also be used solo on the PC? This would provide additional value. The
Waterways & Lights do not contain the depth and other detail provided by the BlueChart maps. The Garmin web page will let you take a look at examples from both CDs for evaluation.
posted 12-06-2001 02:12 PM ET (US)
I THINK BlueChart can be used standalone
on the PC. It's a MapSource chart, and
all the other MapSource products can be used
I'll let you know when mine gets here
The other question is can you look at areas
posted 12-11-2001 02:39 PM ET (US)
OK Chuck, lets hear your assessment of the new Blue Chart CD and it's integration with the 168/162. Also, how does it look on a PC screen? Can you review non unlocked areas? Your holding out on us... This usually means it is real good, or real junk. I hope you are just overloaded.
posted 12-11-2001 06:54 PM ET (US)
The CD isn't here yet. Should be here later
today -- UPS does residential deliveries
relatively late down here.
Watch this space.
posted 12-13-2001 01:28 AM ET (US)
My Garmin BlueChart CD came today (one day
late, UPS tracking shows it was UPS's fault)
It loaded on to my PC (Win2K SP2) just
fine, except for the very annoying reboot
that Garmin insists on doing. It's just an
application, it shouldn't need a reboot.
All the Americas charts are on one CD. You
I went to Garmin's website and got an unlock
NOTE: The map on the inside of the box (and
It checks the level of firmware in your GPS.
The charts look quite nice They look pretty
I got my unlock code for Region 21 and
YES, the unlock code is correctly entered --
So, I haven't seen what the BlueCharts look
posted 12-13-2001 09:12 AM ET (US)
What’s the reason for the unlock codes? Probably to prevent copying the charts, ah very smart.
Thanks for working out the bugs for us Chuck :)
posted 12-13-2001 01:02 PM ET (US)
The US coast is about 25 regions. You get
to unlock one region with the CD. Additional
unlock codes are about $80. An unlock code
will let you load one region into TWO GPSs.
West coast regions are quite big (three cover
I've had four e-mails and a telephone call
posted 12-13-2001 10:21 PM ET (US)
After five e-mails and a phone call from
Garmin today (can you spell C-U-S-T-O-M-E-R
S-E-R-V-I-C-E ?) we determined that the
external serial number (people readable) and
internal unit ID (machine readable) don't
relate in the way Garmin thinks they should.
The unlock code I got off Garmin's website
was calculated from the external s/n.
Garmin sent me a new one calculated from the
internal unit ID, and all is now well.
I've downloaded the interesting BlueCharts,
OK, now let's get down to what's
The charts suffer from the same problems the
The charts appear to be from Transas Dataco,
All told, well done, Garmin.
posted 12-13-2001 10:57 PM ET (US)
OK, solved the tides problem. One of the
things Garmin had me try was a factory reset
on the unit (hold down four buttons at power
on). That made the unit forget where it was
and what time it was. It decided it was in
Kansas with Toto and that it was Dec 31 '06.
That apparently confused the tides program.
Once I took the unit back down to the boat,
hooked the antenna back up and let it figure
where and when it was, all was well with
posted 12-14-2001 12:11 AM ET (US)
Now, how do they look on PC? The display should mimic printed copy.
posted 12-15-2001 08:56 AM ET (US)
On the PC, the maps look pretty much like
the NOAA charts, except that there's very
little land detail. I haven't had a chance
to actually compare my paper charts and
what's on the PC screen.
I have figured out how to find out how big the
That covers everywhere my boat went this
posted 03-12-2002 10:38 PM ET (US)
I picked up the Bluechart Americas.
Now I have to decide which area to unlock.
Our area is over laped with 4 diffrent
First I'll have to download the latest
firmware for the 168.Are all the saved waypoints safe when I start downloading
the firmware and bluechart?
I'll have to decide between region 11
or 12.Region 12 is not far enough south,
and region 11 may not be far enough north
posted 03-13-2002 09:48 AM ET (US)
Yes, your waypoints are safe when you upgrade
the firmware, but you should make a back up
with Mapsource anyway. Every time I hook a
GPS to Mapsource, the first thing I do is
create a file named something like
gpsnameYYYYMMDD.mps, for example if I backed
up the 162 today, it would be
GPS16220020313.mps. (Note: I have three
Garmin GPSs used for different purposes, so I
have to keep them straight). I haven't needed
the backup, probably because I have them --
Murphey ignores those who are prepared for him.
Pick the Region that's most interesting to
Don't use the region map on the back of the
posted 03-13-2002 10:15 PM ET (US)
Do I need to download both sounder
software 3.03 and mapsource 4.06?
Its to late tonight to start but
I hope to have it ready for Fridays
Wow! I see here they have a 25 digit
posted 03-14-2002 01:51 AM ET (US)
You will need to download firmware 3.03 to
the GPS. It's on the BlueChart CD. I'm
pretty sure that the CD will install
Yep, big long unlock code, but you can
The unlock code is so long because it has
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