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B WILLEY posted 10-30-2001 08:54 PM ET (US)   Profile for B WILLEY   Send Email to B WILLEY  
RECENTLY BOUGHT A WHALER. HAVE REASON TO BELEIVE ITS A 1961. NEEDS A LOT OF WORK; I'LL BE COMING TO YOU GUYS FOR LOTS OF ADVICE IN THE COMING MONTHS. RIGHT NOW MY FIRST QUESTION IS, WHERE DO I FIND THE HULL NUMBER?
jimh posted 10-30-2001 09:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
HIN WAS NOT REQUIRED IN 1961 COULD BE PAINTED OVER DONT TYPE ALL CAPS WELCOME
jimh posted 10-30-2001 09:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
[Longer form answer, more our usual style here on continuousWave where we have many long-winded contributors, befitting their extensive boating knowlege.]

This is a frequently asked question.

In 1961 the Hull Identification Number was not a requirement as it is now. Whaler tended to identify its boats with a painted-on-by- stencil hull number, usually located in the forward locker well or the motor well area.
In many older boats this number has been painted over.

I don't know exactly when the use of embossed metal tags was begun, but, again, on really old boats it is not unusual for the tag to have been removed or lost.

You can identify a range of years that your boat could have been produced by comparing its appearance with the many slight variations noted in my REFERENCE article. You can reach the REFERENCE section with the hyperlinks at the top of the summary pages of the FORUM section. Navigation in the REFERNCE section is pretty straight forward and probably does not need too much explanation here.

At some point two numbering systems began to be used. The hull was marked with the painted hull mold number, which tracked the mold used to make the boat and a sequential number. The finished boat was identified with a Hull Identification Number which satisfied the requirements of government regulations.

So a boat may have two reference numbers. For example, a 17-foot hull could be molded and receive a particular "mold" number. Then this hull could be fitted out and become any one of several different models, so it receives a second number, its HIN, to designate it as a unique boat and product, say a KATAMA model.

This, and many other questions have been answered in the previous two years of the FORUM's existance. All this material is available for you to read and research. You might benefit from browsing through the 20,000 postings that are available, and I am sure you will find much useful information.

One thing we do prefer here is that postings use polite English, and proper form.

Welcome to the FORUM,

--jimh
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Tom W Clark posted 10-30-2001 09:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
hahahahahahahahaha, jimh, you can be most droll at times!

B WILLEY, welcome, and tell us a bit more about your boat.

Though there is no HIN, there may be a serial number. It would be stenciled in black lettering on the the inside of the transom in the splash well. If your hull has been painted, you might try stripping the paint in that area if you are really curious.

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