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SWarren posted 11-05-2001 08:57 AM ET (US)   Profile for SWarren   Send Email to SWarren  
We went offshore yesterday in Charleston SC in 6' to 8' seas. There was not a lot of chop just big swells. We went out down wind which was not bad. We caught a nice 40 or so lb king, then decided to come in. Comming back at one point we had about 10 inches of water in the revenge on the floor but put the bow up and it ran right out. The only other boat we saw out yesterday was a 46 ocean yacht and a freightliner. Once we got back inshore we fished the creeks in about 4 feet of water and caught some nice red fish. What a fun day on the revenge, and what a versitle boat. I probably would not have gone offshore, but it was the only day I will be able to go for a while. It was well worth the trip to see that king come out of the water and hit the line.
csj posted 11-07-2001 08:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for csj  Send Email to csj     
I"m curious to know what are you powering the 22' with, and what yr. what is your max speed ?
SWarren posted 11-08-2001 02:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for SWarren  Send Email to SWarren     
I have 95 twin 115 johnson motors. Max speed is probably 41 - 45 mph at 5500 rpms.
They run great.I find the best crusing speed is 4200 rpms.
dann2015 posted 11-08-2001 04:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for dann2015  Send Email to dann2015     
According to the NOAA Edisto buoy (41 mi. ESE of Charleston), wave heights on 11/4 ranged between 4 and 5.5 ft. Most people tend to overestimate wave heights; just trying to keep you honest. Don't think you would have been out there in an honest 6-8 ft. sea.
lhg posted 11-08-2001 05:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
I generally don't claim a wave to be 6' until I can't see past the oncoming crest when I'm down in the trough, standing at the helm. This is generally a pretty good indicator. When you're looking up at the crest, they're higher than 6'.
andygere posted 11-08-2001 05:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Here's the surfers perspective:

It's important to be clear on what we are measuring. A 5 foot wave may easily have an 8 foot face if the wave is breaking, or at least critical. The wave face is measured from the lip to the trough of the wave. Most surfers will classify waves in more generic terms: waist high, chest high, head high, overhead, double overhead, etc. The buoy reports actually transmit swell size, not wave face size, so this can create some real confusion. When you are out in your Whaler or paddling into a big one at Steamer Lane, the wave face is what matters. The key is being able to translate wave heights in the buoy reports to what you will actually experience out there.

SWarren posted 11-09-2001 08:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for SWarren  Send Email to SWarren     
The paper sunday morning was calling for 6 to 8. I read it when I got home. There was also a small craft out later that day. I know at one point I had water break over my bow and land on my windshield where the canvas buttons on it. It ran up the canvas through the t top and soaked all of us. While it may have not been a steady 6 - 8 there were for sure some out there. I could be at the bottom of a swell and see them way above me. Next time I will take my tape measure.
Eric posted 11-09-2001 10:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for Eric  Send Email to Eric     
Four foot, eight foot, somewhere in between... it obviously was nasty out there! Just remember, these are great boats, but they don't have handles on the bottom.
jimp posted 11-09-2001 11:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimp  Send Email to jimp     
Eric - "Handles on the bottom." Wow, right out of the testimonial section of the Whaler catalog from the late '60s or early '70s. Testimonial was about how tough the boat was (13 or 17) but they flipped it and had trouble sitting on the overturned boat until help arrived.
Tom W Clark posted 11-09-2001 11:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Wave height is always measured vertically, from trough to crest.

The face of a wave is entirely dependent on wave height and the steepness of the wave. Many 1 foot waves will have a 8 foot face and many ocean swells of 8 feet will have a face of a hundred feet or more and amount to nothing more than a gentle rise and fall.

Wave heights are typically overestimated and I would expect 4 to 5.5 foot swell to be perceived as 6 to 8 feet. But as andygere points out, it's the steepness as well as height of a wave that makes it daunting.

SWarren's experience is none the less a fine example of the excellent sea keeping abilities of the Whaler. Running a boat in big seas is just plain fun, and a 6 to 8 foot swell is well within the capabilities of all but the smallest whalers. For those who have never experienced it: try it, you'll like it.

I have many NOAA sites saved as bookmarks. It is incredible how much information there is there. Wave data is just one small part. Think of how far we've come when we can go online an find out real time data about seas and weather thousands a miles away! Fascinating.

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