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KeysNole posted 11-10-2001 05:07 PM ET (US)   Profile for KeysNole   Send Email to KeysNole  
A Whaler "Menemsha" on ebay. Looks interesting to say the least. Doesn't mention the size though. I'm sure you guys can give some background information.

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Tom W Clark posted 11-10-2001 05:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
The Menemsha is a model of the original 16' Whaler. It was produced from '65 into the early 70's. It a relatively rare model but they are around.

Their was one on Ebay many months ago. The guy initially wanted $25K for it. Ludicrous!

For more on the Menemsha, look here:

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/16-17/models.html

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage25.html

bigz posted 11-10-2001 05:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
Hey KeysNole, first off look around to find your answer -- college student! Well you know I'm sure the term reference might ring a bell! -- this site has one of those areas and in that area your question would have been answered here --- http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/16-17/ for the era it was made and what hull was used to make it

Now I know your more curious than that --- time for a little more investigative WORK ---

The site also contains a photo section which is here http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/ at the top you will see "photo log" Click On It , when there scroll down to this boats featured page --- after you look at the nice pictures and read the commentary you will see a link to discuss this on the forum -- that will bring you back here to the discussion which was held a year ago this month ---

Oh if your not aware here is the sites home page http://continuouswave.com/whaler/index.html this is where you start before asking questions -- if answers can't be found then ask away --

DCPeters posted 11-10-2001 06:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for DCPeters  Send Email to DCPeters     
A nice one of these sold near Albany in a day at about 4500-5000$ in late summer.
JBCornwell posted 11-10-2001 07:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Gee whiz, Z! All he did was ask a question! Lighten up a bit.

If we didn't rehash and rehash old subjects this would be a very dull and vacant board.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

InHerNet posted 11-10-2001 09:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for InHerNet  Send Email to InHerNet     
Hey KeysNole, Great question, I saw it also and was wondering myself. Don't take the BigZ comments to heart. He or She must be having a bad day. Some people are just in too much control of others and hide behind their own intellect. The Internet is full of information and these forums are just where you need to look first. Look at BigZ's answer. The message is more important then the messenger!
Tsuriki BW posted 11-10-2001 10:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tsuriki BW  Send Email to Tsuriki BW     
KeysNole

bigz may have come accross a bit rough but look at the info (and the time he took to put it together) he gave you.

bigz and others will do most anything to help you, Read and learn, then share with others. This is a great group here.

Tsuriki

KeysNole posted 11-11-2001 12:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for KeysNole  Send Email to KeysNole     
I have no problem with the way Bigz is acting. If he wants to give snide remarks, that is fine with me. The truth is, my Boston Whaler is the smallest of my boats, and is getting the least amount of attention right now. However I realize there is a huge following of this name, and people are going to flip out a bit when I don't know as much about the history as they do.

Bigz, I have looked through these many pages, but don't remember seeing that particular model. I appreciate your time in answering my question--it has allowed me more time for both academics and watersports.

Brent posted 11-11-2001 01:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for Brent  Send Email to Brent     
WHATS WITH THESE RIDICULOUS USER NAMES!. First of all we should be dealing with mature people that have nothing to hide, therefore why not use a name that we are commonly called, if Mr. Bigz has no other life, apparently like some of you who have come up with immature call names regarding such a respectable interest and hobby as the restoration of wonderful vintage Whalers {which we all seem to have in common) I find it amusing that some must seek some minor sense of importance in there small lives through meaningless retorts when using names that would be better found in a comic book. Is this a serious pursuit or some electronic Ego agenda for those that are incapable of exposing their true selves. What can I say I just love to stir up the pot. Also I think the Menemsha is a classic worth acquiring if it fits your requirements.
bigz posted 11-11-2001 07:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
KeysNote, sorry if I was a little heavy on the sarcasm -- wasn't in a sense pointed directly at you.

I got the desired response from a few others, that was this site is more than just this forum and a lot (not all) the information is present if you just take the time with a little effort to find out and use these resources.

JimH has done a fantastic job building the site one "block" at a time since Feb 2000.

So hey take advantage of it before using the forum --- maybe what your "need to know" is already here and in some cases more through than what the forum can provide --- Tom


noswah posted 11-11-2001 08:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for noswah  Send Email to noswah     

This is the same boat that was on ebay this past summer. Seems like it was only bid to 1500 or so and the guy pulled it off. I made him an offer which wasn't much higher.

He insisted that it was worth much more and had just sold it for 4400 or 4800. Guess the deal fell through. I reconize the American Eagle motor home in his driveway and the fish on his chain link fence.

JBCornwell posted 11-11-2001 08:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
HMMM. That Menemsha must be pretty rough up close. Given it's relative rarity I would have expected it to go quickly, but for not much more than 3.5 to 4 Gs.

Had a neighbor in Dania years ago who had one that they treasured like another grandchild. They had bought the boat new in New England when they retired and trailered it to FL. Kept it Bristol, on a lift. Had a Bearcat 55 on it. I don't think it ever went out of the ICW. They took me on a cruise of waterfront hangouts one day. A wonderful boat for that, but I doubt that it is a good fishing or skiing boat. Did get a LOT of attention from knowledgable boaters, though.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

jimh posted 11-11-2001 08:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
In inquery by KeysNole asking for more information on the Menemsha is somewhat ironic in that on this website the Menemsha is an especially well-documented model of early Boston.

In calling him to task for his failure to consult the other resources available on the website besides the FORUM, many issues were raised which are best discussed in the META-Forum.

--jimh

InHerNet posted 11-11-2001 08:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for InHerNet  Send Email to InHerNet     
BigZ, You should have this users name, you have shown that you are BIG by saying your sorry. Thanks for doing that. You have shared a lot of great insight with all of us.
I'm glad to have you here.
A friend told me once, maybe twice..
"Say what you mean, mean what you say, just don't say it mean"
whaletail posted 11-11-2001 11:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for whaletail  Send Email to whaletail     
Hey, don't worry about the negative response from some of the high-horse members here. For anyone's interest (and there isn't very much for Menemsha's), there were 235 built. The last 35 were made in 1975 - something the specs don't mention. So that means there are only 35 "original" tan gel-coat shas possibly still out there. How do I know? I've got #235.
KeysNole posted 11-12-2001 01:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for KeysNole  Send Email to KeysNole     
Thanks for the input Whaletail. I emailed the seller, and he said his reserve is $3500. Surely an interesting boat, and located in the Florida panhandle if anyone is interested.
whaletail posted 11-12-2001 03:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for whaletail  Send Email to whaletail     
If I wasn't on the opposite side, I'd be interested in that one. The doors and top look to be in great shape. Same with the hardware. Wood needs replacing - which is what I also had to do. (I don't have a web site, but I can e-mail pics of the new teak console and sides to anyone who's interested)
WantaWhale posted 11-12-2001 03:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for WantaWhale  Send Email to WantaWhale     
I think those boats are neat and I wish they would have made them for a longer period of time (so they would be easier to find).
whaletail , do you have any pics of the inside cabin? How are these boats for offshore use (5-15 miles)? How do they compare to an 18' outrage?
whaletail posted 11-12-2001 06:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for whaletail  Send Email to whaletail     
Mine is a little different than the rest. For some reason, it originally came without the toilet or bunks, which is great ! (more space) So give me an e-add. and I'll send all the pics you'd care to see.
p.s. I'm pretty proud of the teakwork I did.
vdbgroup posted 11-19-2001 01:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for vdbgroup  Send Email to vdbgroup     
FORUM PROTOCOL....I have to agree with Brent above regarding the tone of some of the "discourse" found on this discussion forum. It pains me to read remarks that seem arrogant or offensive.... I say "seem" because I don't think anyone on this forum is intentionally arrogant or offensive (except Bigshot), but electronic written communication lacks the physical and visual aspects of communication that more thoroughly convey the tone of a message. Therefore, I propose we all read what we write before we submit. Bigshot -just kidding- , your handle is itself an ample disclaimer.
WantaWhale posted 11-19-2001 02:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for WantaWhale  Send Email to WantaWhale     
Thanks whaletail. My address is fletch@fletch.bml.usouthal.edu

Would love to see pics of your boat. There is something about the Menemsha that appeals to me.

In return, here are a few pics I took out in the gulf on Saturday. That last pic is the marker for the USS Techumseh, a civil war ship that sank in 1865. Belive it or not the water there was over 30 ' deep even that close to shore. The lighthouse is about 4.5-5 miles offshore and has been there since about 1873.

http://southmed.usouthal.edu/library/test/fletch/gulf/

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