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what do you rate as 'mint condition'
|Author||Topic: what do you rate as 'mint condition'|
posted 11-10-2001 11:22 PM ET (US)
In looking at some used boats in the past year I have come across a whole bunch that were listed as 'excellent' or 'mint' by both private sellers and dealers. I was apalled to find out (especially in the case of dealers) what they considered to be in near perfect condition (heavy oxidation, chips and gouges in the gelcoat, nonskid worn down, repainted motors, etc). http://www.BUC.com has some decent guidelines for what equates to mint, good, average, fair, and poor condition. When I go to see a boat that is advertised as being 'mint', I expect it to be in near new condition. I am somewhat fanatical about the overall appearance of my boat (as I expect many here are) and I can honestly say that none of my boats have really ever been in 'mint' condition.
posted 11-10-2001 11:39 PM ET (US)
Here is the table from the BUC link:
1 Excellent (Bristol) Maintained in mint or bristol fashion-usually better than factory new-and loaded with extras-a rarity Plus 15-20%
2 Above BUC condition Has had above average care and eqipped with extra electrical and electronic gear Plus 10-15%
3 BUC Condition Ready for sale requiring no additional work and normally equipped for her size No Adjustment Necessary
4 Fair Requires usual maintenance to prepare for sale Minus 10-20%
5 Poor Substantial yard work required and devoid of extras Minus 25-50%
6 Restorable Enough of hull and engine exists to restore the boat to useable condition. Minus 50-80%
posted 11-11-2001 09:01 PM ET (US)
I'm with you, Dan.
I have looked at several (10-12) used boats over the past two years. Some Whalers, some not. Most have been crap. Advertised as "like new" and they are filthy, filled with leaves, chipped paint on the engine cowling and a rusty trailer with bald tires and a sky high asking price.
One of the bright sides to the current recession will be to take the wind out of the sails of people asking crazy prices on boats, used cars, real estate, etc.
In my book the only boat that is "mint" or "bristol" is one that is brand new and still in the showroom or still in the original shrinkwrap from the factory. Everything after that is average and goes down hill from there.
posted 11-12-2001 10:39 AM ET (US)
When I call I ask him/her to describe it on a 1-10 scale, 10 being new. If he stumbles too much and then starts making excuses like it has been painted but you must see it, etc. I usually pass. I also ask if it is original or modified. I do NOT want some homemade casting deck screwed into my floor or a console that was made in woodshop. Take that 15' whaler on E-bay for instance, he claims it is mint with a 92 evinrude. It is a POS and an early 80's(looks like 83) Johnson. Would not waste a tollcall.
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