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gunnelgrabber posted 11-11-2001 01:03 PM ET (US)
In the boat/u.s. mag nov. 2001 pg. 26 is an account of people dying of carbon monoxide poisoning due to "surfing" behind a moving boat ,hanging on a swim platform while underway etc...question: lots of divers(snorkelers,scallopers..swimmers etc.) hang on to a 6-10 ' line, idling along behind a montauk 'looking' at the bottom. this is called "dragging" or by some as "trolling for sharks"...you get some gas and oil fumes from hub exhaust..so,will that kill you ? or just get you a headache and a peculiar breath?..your thoughts?..thanks...lm
DCPeters posted 11-11-2001 03:08 PM ET (US)
I was startled to see this report. I had never seen anybody do this, and thought the anyone with any sense would never get that close to the prop, much less spend any time there breathing in the vapors.
The headache is your body suffocating cause the heme group is bound to co molecules.
DCPeters posted 11-11-2001 03:11 PM ET (US)
I was startled to see this report. I had never seen anybody do this, and thought the anyone with any sense would never get that close to the prop, much less spend any time there breathing in the vapors.
The headache is your body suffocating cause the heme group is bound to co molecules. Your question (could that kill you?) is most definitely a yes...it depends on the % of the heme groups that are taken out by the CO, and how many still available to elliver Oxygen to the cells of your body.
hardensheetmetal posted 11-11-2001 04:49 PM ET (US)
DCPeters-
I couldn't agree with you more, I was surprised when I saw this article. Are there actually people who would let there kids get towed this close behind a boat, do they also let their kids put there hands into the fan blade of the family station wagon??? Common sense!!!
Dan
hardensheetmetal posted 11-11-2001 04:53 PM ET (US)
DCPeters-
I couldn't agree with you more, I was surprised when I saw this article. Are there actually people who would let there kids get towed this close behind a boat, do they also let their kids put there hands into the fan blade of the family station wagon??? Common sense!!!
Dan
hardensheetmetal posted 11-11-2001 04:54 PM ET (US)
I hate it when i do that, sorry
Dan posted 11-11-2001 10:09 PM ET (US)
Some people are totally irresponsible. One of my daughter's friend's mother just puts her outboard in neutral and doesn't shut the engine when kids climb down the swim ladder to board tubes. This mom is also a know-it-all and a terrible boater. Needless to say my daughter never accepts rides on her boat. Oh yeah, she sprays on-off acid on her boat's waterline while the boat is in the water. I once participated in a one-mile swim with 50 other people. Various boats served as safety/rescue. Some of these boat's exhaust drifted over swimers. I asked several boats to alter course. Oh well. It's always something.
where2 posted 11-12-2001 12:57 PM ET (US)
Haven't read the article, but I will admit to having been towed behind a boat doing any number of things (Snorkeling, wake boarding, etc). My common sense tells me that the longer line I use, the more freedom I have to dive and look at stuff, or whatever. A 10' line is absurd! Shortest line I ever used was a 35' line off the Zodiac. I've even been given a warning by the marine patrol about "dragging". His concern was that we didn't have a dive flag.
Being towed behind the boat while snorkeling is a very efficient way to cover a greater distance while looking for new and different reefs. I'm blessed to have 50-80' visibility in the ocean on "good days". Charts don't usually cover the small shelves and ledges which are commonly covered and uncovered by the shifting sands in my area.
Drag responsibly... Then again, they've been saying "Drink responsibly" for years, and some people still can't handle that...
gunnelgrabber posted 11-12-2001 07:14 PM ET (US)
much of the article really doesn't apply to dragging...it appears to me that 3/4 of the divers in the keys do it. never heard of a fatality or injury.. have fouled the line on the prop,got conked by the skeg once in rough water...there's a little risk in most things that are fun. thanks for the input..lm

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Author	Topic: regarding "fatal fad"
gunnelgrabber	posted 11-11-2001 01:03 PM ET (US) In the boat/u.s. mag nov. 2001 pg. 26 is an account of people dying of carbon monoxide poisoning due to "surfing" behind a moving boat ,hanging on a swim platform while underway etc...question: lots of divers(snorkelers,scallopers..swimmers etc.) hang on to a 6-10 ' line, idling along behind a montauk 'looking' at the bottom. this is called "dragging" or by some as "trolling for sharks"...you get some gas and oil fumes from hub exhaust..so,will that kill you ? or just get you a headache and a peculiar breath?..your thoughts?..thanks...lm
DCPeters	posted 11-11-2001 03:08 PM ET (US) I was startled to see this report. I had never seen anybody do this, and thought the anyone with any sense would never get that close to the prop, much less spend any time there breathing in the vapors. The headache is your body suffocating cause the heme group is bound to co molecules.
DCPeters	posted 11-11-2001 03:11 PM ET (US) I was startled to see this report. I had never seen anybody do this, and thought the anyone with any sense would never get that close to the prop, much less spend any time there breathing in the vapors. The headache is your body suffocating cause the heme group is bound to co molecules. Your question (could that kill you?) is most definitely a yes...it depends on the % of the heme groups that are taken out by the CO, and how many still available to elliver Oxygen to the cells of your body.
hardensheetmetal	posted 11-11-2001 04:49 PM ET (US) DCPeters- I couldn't agree with you more, I was surprised when I saw this article. Are there actually people who would let there kids get towed this close behind a boat, do they also let their kids put there hands into the fan blade of the family station wagon??? Common sense!!! Dan
hardensheetmetal	posted 11-11-2001 04:53 PM ET (US) DCPeters- I couldn't agree with you more, I was surprised when I saw this article. Are there actually people who would let there kids get towed this close behind a boat, do they also let their kids put there hands into the fan blade of the family station wagon??? Common sense!!! Dan
hardensheetmetal	posted 11-11-2001 04:54 PM ET (US) I hate it when i do that, sorry
Dan	posted 11-11-2001 10:09 PM ET (US) Some people are totally irresponsible. One of my daughter's friend's mother just puts her outboard in neutral and doesn't shut the engine when kids climb down the swim ladder to board tubes. This mom is also a know-it-all and a terrible boater. Needless to say my daughter never accepts rides on her boat. Oh yeah, she sprays on-off acid on her boat's waterline while the boat is in the water. I once participated in a one-mile swim with 50 other people. Various boats served as safety/rescue. Some of these boat's exhaust drifted over swimers. I asked several boats to alter course. Oh well. It's always something.
where2	posted 11-12-2001 12:57 PM ET (US) Haven't read the article, but I will admit to having been towed behind a boat doing any number of things (Snorkeling, wake boarding, etc). My common sense tells me that the longer line I use, the more freedom I have to dive and look at stuff, or whatever. A 10' line is absurd! Shortest line I ever used was a 35' line off the Zodiac. I've even been given a warning by the marine patrol about "dragging". His concern was that we didn't have a dive flag. Being towed behind the boat while snorkeling is a very efficient way to cover a greater distance while looking for new and different reefs. I'm blessed to have 50-80' visibility in the ocean on "good days". Charts don't usually cover the small shelves and ledges which are commonly covered and uncovered by the shifting sands in my area. Drag responsibly... Then again, they've been saying "Drink responsibly" for years, and some people still can't handle that...
gunnelgrabber	posted 11-12-2001 07:14 PM ET (US) much of the article really doesn't apply to dragging...it appears to me that 3/4 of the divers in the keys do it. never heard of a fatality or injury.. have fouled the line on the prop,got conked by the skeg once in rough water...there's a little risk in most things that are fun. thanks for the input..lm