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Macman posted 11-24-2001 09:25 PM ET (US)   Profile for Macman   Send Email to Macman  
Where is Jack, and what have you done with him?
TunreLahw posted 11-24-2001 11:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for TunreLahw    
I have been wondering this myself--of all people!

Confused? Check my profile!

jimh posted 11-25-2001 09:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
While I have been accused of being "overbearing" and "pedantic" and many other things in the process of moderating this FORUM, I just cannot help myself in this case. I have to say this...

The topic of this thread makes allusion to Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet and a famous line that it contains:

"O Romeo, Romeo! Wherefore art thou Romeo?"

Juliet is not asking "where is Romeo" because the word "wherefore" does not mean "where".

The word "wherefore" means "why". As in the well-known phrase "the why and the wherefore."

Juliet asks "Romeo, Romeo! [Why] art thou Romeo?" because she is upset that this dashing fellow she has fallen for is Romeo, a man she cannot love because of the rift between their families.

There is some dramatic irony, too, as the audience sees Romeo standing below the balcony, and the play on words "Wherefore" and "where" is clear.

Thus, our topic here is not "Where is Whalernut?" but really "Why Whalernut?"

Yes, I think this is a perfect topic for dicussion. Why Whalernut? And, also, where the hell is he these days?

Jack, come back, we miss you!

whalernut posted 11-25-2001 11:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Hey guys, I`m still around!!! This is the Hunting and Holiday season, so I have been pretty active. I also have a wife and a 1 and a half year old son to keep me going!!!! I just put the Currituck away in a barn. $120 for the season!!!! Also, I having been playing my guitars alot, I love to jamm!!! I am also selling my 1975 85 h.p. Johnson in the Spring if anyone is interested, I will post in the For Sale area when closer to that time?? You can e-mail me directly in the meantime if interested at all?? I may also even sell my beloved 73` Currituck, as I am in a money crunch at this time, it sucks, but I see an Eastport ot Nausett down the road someday!!! Let me know on either if interested?? If I decide to sell the boat, I will sell the whole package with engine. Thanks for thinking of me also!!! Regards-Jack Graner.
bc posted 11-25-2001 12:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for bc    
somebody say guitars?

Jack, what type guitars do you own?

Funny thing here, seems like people like the "classics" guitars better than the new ones. Sound familiar? Nothing like the '57 Fender Strat! I have a 1984 reissue of this baby and a musicman amp.


kingfish posted 11-25-2001 01:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     

Pedantic? Come on, Jim; *nobody* here is pedantic...well, except maybe sometimes...

Anyway, with all due, I took Macman's topic to be a reference to the Coen Brother's recent film, "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?", a story loosely patterned after the Odyssey, and because it is a Coen Brothers film, one of my favorites before I even saw it.

It never occurred to me that the movie title might have alluded to Shakespearean dialogue; I guess it's possible. I did enjoy your treatise, however, and like you and Macman, have also been wondering where and/or wherefore Whalernut.

Glad to hear from you, Jack - if you do wind up having to sell your Currituck, I can verify it's a good sound specimen, and should market well.


whalernut posted 11-25-2001 05:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Thanks John, it seams more of a reality every day that I will have to sell her and my Dodge Dakota, as my wife is going to be staying home and being a full time house wife soon, so something has too go!! Paying off the credit cards you know! As for my guitars, I have a Hamer Eclipse with 2 mini-humbuckers and an Epiphone Les Paul Classic with 2 driving humbuckers. I have a Carvin Tube Amp with 60 watts of power and 2 -12 inch Celestion speakers and an Ibanez Tube King pedal to drive it even harder. I play the Hard and Fast stuff. I am looking at selling both(guitars, if anyone is interested?) to get a new Gibson Explorer with 2 monster pick-ups and eventually want a Marshall half-stack to blow my windows out or is that get thrown out by my wife!! Regards-Jack Graner.
John from Madison CT posted 11-25-2001 07:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for John from Madison CT  Send Email to John from Madison CT     

New baby in the house...wife not working..big bills to pay....BEEN THERE DONE THAT.
7 years ago, before my son was born, I had a 25' Whaler with a tower, full transom, twin 150 Evinrudes...NOW, wife is still not working, bills are higher than ever, but I managed to scrape enough together to get my new ('89) Montauk....AND I'm happier than a clam. Can't wait to take my son fishing this Spring.
Don't worry, my 7 year hiatus was at times agonizing, but it did go kind of fast. It won't be long before I begin the natural progression from my Montauk to an 18' the 22' then maybe someday again, another 25' Outrage.

Hang in there.


whalernut posted 11-25-2001 07:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Thanks John for the pick-me-up!! I figure if I sell the boat in the Spring, then in a few years do the same as you did, except I don`t need bigger than a Nausett-Eastport-Montauk. Give a little now gain some later!! I love my truck too, it`s a 93` Dakota Extra-Cab with the V8 and an Automatic with cruise. I figure to go down from there-oh well. Regards-Jack Graner.
jimh posted 11-25-2001 08:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     

It is hard to sell a Whaler that you love. I have been having a "discussion" about the one I have in the garage that we don't use much anymore...

In your situation, I should point out that if the time does come for you to sell, that Currituck has added value...its provenance!

"Twas once owned by Whalernut!"

whalernut posted 11-25-2001 09:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Thanks JimH. I agree the sale would take on a kind of Whalernut owned my Currituck at one time kind of thing!!!!!!!!!!! I am no-one special, but just having to sell something special, but also knowing that I am selling her for 2 special people in my life-my Wife and Son! I believe I will have too let her go and bid her a fond farewell and hope someone takes her into their home and give her lots of love and fishing days!!!! Regards-Jack Graner.
bc posted 11-25-2001 09:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for bc    

It only gets more expensive as the little ones grow up. (I should know, have three...5,7,& 9)BUT, worth every penny. Also, watch out trading on guitars and amps, I once figured I've spent 25K over the past 20yrs on guitars. I'd hate to figure in boats also. The Marshals are great amps, had a 50w silver aniversary half stack five to seven yrs back and I mean they are LOUD. Anyway, good luck with the baby.


JFM posted 11-26-2001 08:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Jack, I'm an old jammer, I still have my 1968 Gibson ES335 with Bigsby tail piece and a Fender Deluxe Reverb (bought both new). My wife made me get rid of the WA WA pedal. I can't play any more because of arthritis in the fingers, or maybe because when I try to play Hendrix every one leaves the house. Good to know your still around. I have been through these bad times, they usually get better. Regards, Jay
bc posted 11-26-2001 10:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for bc    

I once had a 1966 deluxe reverb amp. Last of the "black face" ones. Man do I love deluxe reverb amps!! I think they are the best sounding clean amp around.


JFM posted 11-27-2001 09:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
bc, there is nothing like JBL speakers and tube amps. Regards, Jay
bc posted 11-27-2001 07:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for bc    
Definatly agree, I also like those old Jensons (Brown label) that came in those wonderful sounding amps.


dgp posted 11-27-2001 08:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for dgp  Send Email to dgp     
Jack, chances are you're Currituck "baby" will be purchased by one of the Forum members so it will stay in the "family". You might even get to say hello to her at a future reunion.
Macman posted 11-28-2001 06:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Macman  Send Email to Macman are correct! That was my reference. I loved that movie. Teachers should use it in school to supplement the study of the Classics.( Not to mention the soundtrack..)
Anyway, I have always enjoyed Jack's posts, and was missing him. I have alway considered him the Minister of Propaganda on this forum.
Jack...don't sell the Katama! Hold on..spring will be here soon. There are fish out there just waiting for you to return.Hold on, brother!
kingfish posted 11-28-2001 10:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     

Great minds...

Most (if not all) of the recording artists from the soundtrack are out on tour with music from the movie and other selected songs, in a venue called, "Down From The Mountain". If you haven't stumbled across it yet, check out their website of the same name. My wife brought home from the library a video of the development of the tour, and it was really neat - I'd love to see it live.

(Let's see, now...that's a video of the live tour of the soundtrack of the movie...some pretty effective marketing there...)

hauptjm posted 11-29-2001 05:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
While we're on the topic: I wonder what ever happened to The Whaler Guy and Makoman? What a pair!
JFM posted 11-29-2001 05:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Haven't you seen Whalerman's add in the market place. He's back alright. Regards, Jay
JFM posted 11-29-2001 05:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Sorry,long day, I meant the Whaler Guy. Jay
kingfish posted 11-29-2001 06:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
I think it's the same *whaler* guy - stated in a post in this forum section, in "the new WHALERS" thread that he headed up BW's Classic Line nationally for four years, but hasn't elaborated yet-
lhg posted 11-29-2001 07:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
I'm told "Makoman" was tracked down to Vancouver BC, and has been locked out. He really got my goat when he said I should "lose the flag" on my Whaler, and that it made it look like I was from some "3rd world country". Maybe he's moved to Afghanistan by now!
kingfish posted 11-29-2001 07:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     

I do believe he did get your goat - those sound like a couple of pretty accurate quotes you've been carrying around, old buddy - he was able to dive right in there and irritate pretty well. I hope he's found a home (or not).

Tom W Clark posted 11-29-2001 07:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
kingfish, JFM & hauptjm,

The Whaler Guy (a.k.a. Greg Olsen, Boston Whaler) is not around any more. He is not the same as (the unfortunately named) Whalerguy. Whalerguy is from MA and posted an ad in Market Place for a 22' Outrage Cuddy, asserting that it's worth every bit of $28K. (I should have pointed out that there are a pair of 22-Outrage Cuddies for sale out here that have been sitting on a used boat lot for months priced in the low $20's, and over priced at that)

The Whaler Guy is/was in Minneapolis and surely would have been much more abusive if he had posted that ad. I think he may have croaked since his ridiculous used Whaler web site is no longer to be found and he has not made an appearance here in quite a while.

Who is this Makoman? Was he before my time?

lhg posted 11-29-2001 07:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
I'm not so sure "Whalerguy's" 1989 22 Outrage Cuddy is so "outrageously" priced, if it's truly mint. First of all, 1989 was one of Whaler's best years. Compare it to what you'd pay for a new 23 Conquest, the closest comparable in the line now. It may seems like a good deal if you're truly looking for a Classic boat to hold on to. If you're one of these "flip it" guys, it's not for you.
kingfish posted 11-29-2001 07:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     

Thanks for the clarification - I take back everything I said about Whalerguy, except my expressed curiosity about his involvement with BW Classic Line.

Makoman was before your time, and believe me, you didn't miss anything of socially redeeming value. He came storming in here one day abusing everything and everyone in sight (Larry's example was a relatively mild one compared to some of the stuff he spouted). There was no taking him on, or holding reasonable discourse with him; he was simply here to cause trouble. Before JimH got his number and pulled the plug on him, a number of us had agreed via e-mail that the *only* way to deal with him was to not respond to anything he posted, for any reason; most everyone else caught on, and *that* didn't even stop him. He was a real cowboy.

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