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posted 12-02-2001 01:28 AM ET (US)
Someone please talk me into buying a 13ft whaler.
I do not have much storage space but need to get a small boat to fish from. I am in San diego, I could store up to a 15 footer but they are so hard to come by it is unbelievable out here. I have convinced myself that a 13 could suit my needs. I only fish the bays and the local kelp beds, maybe to 3-4 miles out. I have been this far ion my kayak so a small whaler should be nothing. WHat I would like to know is...
13 ft whalers seem to be very low to the water, will this be a problem in even small chop?
Is there any kind of seats with backrests that are semi-comfortable that people have put in a thirteen.
What is the possible speed of a 13 on calm water with a 35-40 hp engine, will I see 25mph?
Thanks for the responses.
posted 12-02-2001 09:56 AM ET (US)
I live in Lake Havasu, Az and have a 13ft Classic,with Johnson 40hp,,i makes 36mph in calm water, yes it floats low in the water but doesn't take any over the sides in 5ft lake waves 30mph winds,you have to be stupid to go out in those conditions,,just call me stupid i love rough water,,,i have taken a breaking wave over the bow,,and it just ran over the transom & the drain plug handled the rest,,even though the boat was nearly full of water kept going just fine, i have never filled the boat with the engine NOT running,,but am sure it would handle it just fine,,,my 13 Classic does have a raised console on right side & seat on top of Gas tank box w/back rest,,seat swivels,,for fishing,,no front seats as boat is open for fishing,,,if you would like to see a pix just e-mail me ,,,email@example.com
posted 12-02-2001 01:10 PM ET (US)
To continue the thought, I have taken mine out in 20+ MPH winds on Lake Ray Hubbard in the Dallas area numerous times. While you won't stay dry in 2 ft chop, you won't drown.
Comfort in a 13 is a comparative issue. Take a look in the galleries that JimH has provided and you will see a wide variety of possible setups. Mine is a side console with a Sourpuss type seatback that hits my lower back. I ALWAYS sit on a boat cushion to help with the shock. Clark Roberts has provided a lot of thought provoking material in the Spruce Creek Navy layout.
posted 12-03-2001 12:02 PM ET (US)
We just bought a 13' Whaler a month or so ago. It's a 1974 with a '75 Evinrude 40hp on the back. I was out side Mission Bay over the weekend. The boat cruised comfortably around 18kts as per my hand held GPS (a little over 20 MPH). Full throttle speeds weren't too much faster maybe low twenty's in kts or about 25 MPH.
Our boat has a really old motor with a really goofy, big lower unit. I'm sure it's not as fast as newer motor would be. (but it runs fine and fast enough for us) I also need to trim the bow up more because at top speed it seems to plow the front of the boat into the water as opposed to ride over it. I think it would be a pretty rare day you would want to do 25 MPH in the ocean very long in a 13, but that's my opinion.
I found it difficult to go very fast without feeling I would shake the boat or my back apart as it crashed into the wind waves.
I would have no problem going out a few miles in good weather with a hand held VHF and a GPS. Just head north in the morning and ride with the waves on the way home.
The boat itself is really stable. I can stand in a corner of the stern without shipping any water.
It is a little busy this time of year, but the boat is kept in the water in Mission Bay and is ready to go in a moments notice. I could give you a ride over the weekend if you wanted to try one out on the water first hand.
posted 12-03-2001 01:01 PM ET (US)
I grew up in a 1963 13-ft Classic with an 18 (can't tow big skiers), 33, 40. Great Peconic Bay, Eastern Long Island, NY (7x5 miles). We had the boat 1966-1981. What a great boat.
Yup, its wet, you get pounded heading into it, but its safe. My folks let me older brother, me, and yonger sister run all over in it. We started at 14-12 yrs old. Believe it or not, NY State had a boating law, those 16-12 yrs old could operate a motorboat if they took the State boating course.
With the 33 we could do about 26.98 knots. We could never catch Dad's bigger boat that did 27 kts. We also towed the boat on many trips to Maine, Nantucket, and Block Island.
posted 12-03-2001 02:04 PM ET (US)
Newer OMC, 40's with smaller lower-unit,and power trim,, makes all the difference I use an 11-3/4x 17,aluminum prop,,raising the bow with the trim is 5mph,,on GPS,,
To pull some one on skis, Air chair, etc. I use a 12 x 13 prop..top speed drops to about 29 mph,,but good hole shot...
For a pix e-mail,,firstname.lastname@example.org
posted 12-03-2001 02:46 PM ET (US)
I neighbor of mine got a 13 sport with a 40 honda four stroke this summer. He has a couple of those rotating seats with swing up backs mounted: one to starboard for the helm, the other on the forward thwart to port. He says its pretty comfortable, and he's been chasing fish all over Puget Sound.
I'm talking about this kind of seat, http://www.garelick.com/products_seat02.htm I think they run about $100 more or less. These seats are an option if you can't find a model with a factory back rest like the sourpuss or the super sport.
You certainly won't find a boat that feels bigger for its size than the 13. This statement is also true of the 17. Probably the 15 too.
posted 12-03-2001 11:19 PM ET (US)
Funny were in the same area, I am curious where you bought yours, I have been looking in the trader at pretty much all that are being sold. I may take you up on your offer to go for a ride, I am only about 10 minutes east of mission bay, ny the stadium. It doesnt have to be any time soon.
Im also curisuo where you kep it in the water in mission bay? I would like to get a 13 because I know I could launch/tow/recover myself singlehandedly.
I used to have a 16 foot glastron that I would run out to the weather bouy in la jolla, I caught a few yellowtail on it but never felt safe.
Anyway, here is my e mail. email@example.com. I wouldnt mind going for a ride. I am currently looking at a 15 footer but it is being sold by a used car lot so I am hesitant.
posted 12-04-2001 12:13 AM ET (US)
Ooops wrong e mail address there, firstname.lastname@example.org
posted 12-04-2001 11:49 AM ET (US)
There are more than 26 adds, for 13' whalers on BoatTrader,com,,,,most put in late November
posted 12-05-2001 11:02 PM ET (US)
I bought an '82 13 footer with the original 35 hp johnson seahorse this summer. Having grown up with whalers, this was the only boat to consider for me. I can tow it on my Subaru, launch it with my 5 year old daughter assisting and it flies! The Columbia River is notorious for quick weather changes and fast currents. The only thing that scares me is hooking a sturgeon bigger than the boat!
posted 12-06-2001 09:47 AM ET (US)
I don't know if you are interested in a new 13 sport, but I have one, and thought I'd let you know that it handles chop very very well, seems to be a bit deeper than my older 13 classic, and has the comfort pack-giving it a backrest on the bench seat. I have it equipped with the optional 40 HP Merc 4-stroke. I am very happy with it.
posted 12-07-2001 07:32 PM ET (US)
I have a 1962 13 Sport with a new 40 hp 4 stroke Merc with pt&t. The boat runs really well and fast with the set up. It also trolls quite nicely, too. I just tilt the motor up at low rpms to get the trolling speed I need.
The 13 fits in my garage perfectly. It is quick and easy to launch and take out. I can get the boat set-up and ready to go with a minimal amount of time for those spur of the moment fishing trips.
My wife loves the boat but hates the wooden bench seats. To placate her, I bought a 48" wide folding padded bench seat from Cabela's for approximately $100. Both the seat and backrests are well cushioned.
I epoxied four combo 1/2 lag 1/2 threaded inserts (1/2 inch diam) into the Cabela's bench seat. I drilled four matching holes into the wooden bench seat (I hated to do it, but had to keep the wife happy...). I bought plastic handled nuts (large wing nuts but with large, easy to grip plastic handles) to secure the Cabela's seat to the wooden bench seat.
When the wife wants to enjoy the boat, all I do is place the Cabela's seat onto the wooden bench seat, slide the bolts into the holes, then secure the set-up with the plastic handled nuts (Orchard Supply Hardware).
When I want to use the boat, all I do is reverse the process and remove the bench seat. Everyone is happy.
I did epoxy heavy duty carpeting to the bottom of the Cabela's seat to prevent scratching of my recently re-finished wooden mahogany bench seat.
Hope this helps.
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