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noke41 posted 12-04-2001 04:02 PM ET (US)   Profile for noke41   Send Email to noke41  
This is my first post and after a week of hunting on the internet, you guys by far seem to know the most about Whalers. My delima is this, I would like (I do not need) a small boat for the Ches. Bay's rivers and creeks. A good friend is trying to get rid of an old 13 Whaler that has seen better years. After talking to a friend that has a 13, we can guess that it is pre 70 (or right around 1970). It is a center console (may have been added later) with a Evinrude 30. The engine is not important to me, the condition of the boat is. There are 4 problems with the boat that may add up to, "leave it alone".
First, there is a small hole in the hull above the H20 line less than the size of a dime. I figure that can be filled easy enough. Can it? Should I be concerned?
Second, there are a number of small cracks around the hull, above and below the H20 line. It looks to be that the gelcoat is cracking b/c it has not been covered or waxed in 8 years. Do you think it is sun damage and/or how would you get it looking nice again. Spray or paint gelcoat? Should I paint it? How muck of a pain if I gelcoat it (sanding, polishing,etc.) Or walk away.
Third, On the bow, there was a crappy patch job on an area that looks like hit a piling and b/c of it a small area that is beginning to seperate (delaminate?). Again, I would assume it is repairable. How would you do it? I would assume that one would re-repair the damaged area and cut the seperating area out and repair w/ fiberglass.
Fourth, is the most concerning. The port hull/transom area looks as if it was damaged and repaired. The repair job looks better that the bow, but I noticed it is a bit brittle. Should I be concerned. I tried to move the transom as much as possible and it did not budge. I also walked on the deck and could not find any soft spots. The deck is peeling and has plently of small cracks as well. Walk away or take on the job.
I can get the boat for either nothing or boat and engine for $300-$400. My main concern is that it is a money pit. I spend $2,000 on a boat I could buy for $1,500.
Any response is greatly appreciated!
JFM posted 12-04-2001 04:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Jamie, don't look at it as a money pit if you can do the work yourself. Look at it as an opportunity to pick up a boat for next to nothing and then learn how to fix it. If it runs and you can buy it for 300-400 bucks it's well woth the exprience. Regards, Jay
Tom W Clark posted 12-04-2001 08:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Well, there's an old saying: "You get what you pay for."

Nothing you've said about this boat sounds extraordinary or unusual for a hull of that vintage. It is all repairable, but at what cost you ask.

I would say that if it is important to have a really nice looking 13' Whaler then you would do better to just buy a better looking boat. If, on the other hand, you fix this boat up yourself and consider the hours you will have into it as nothing but fun with no financial opportunity cost, then you can delude yourself that this boat is a good deal.

An even better approach may be to acquire the boat and motor, get in functional and just enjoy it. You can always sell it later or decide to go ahead and restore it. No matter what you do, it ain't gonna' sink.

Ed Stone posted 12-04-2001 09:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ed Stone  Send Email to Ed Stone     
I would say patch it up and go fishing!
You won't find a small boat as stable as
the 13 footer for flyfishing.
In 1997 Whaler came out with two boats
geared for flyfishing.The 17ft and 20ft
Cross Tackle.

Foward casting rails,optional rear casting
rails,pullup cleats and navigation lights
to avoid snags,motorwell cover to prevent
snags,through door tippet dispenser,and
a optional Fenwick edition that came with
a premium saltwater flyrod.
Ed Stone

noke41 posted 12-05-2001 09:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for noke41  Send Email to noke41     
Thanks for the response everyone. It sounds like I should take this challenge on!
Ed-How did you know I would use it fo flyfishing? I must have mentioned it some where or you should work for Ms. Cleo!
JFM- You right, it is an opportunity to learn something about glass repair.
Tom- Your right, I'm not paying much, I'm not getting much. I would like to make the boat look nice thought. Restore it and customize it for flyfishing at the same time.

Any idea how much of a pain it is to put on a new gelcoat over the existing (cracking) gelcoat. If I paint it on, how much of a pain is it to sand and polish?

jameso posted 12-05-2001 10:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for jameso  Send Email to jameso     
Look at other threads, in the repair section, I think the general opinion is to paint the interior with something like Awlgrip,
Lots of luck, and I hope you enjoy the fruits of your labor, Also don't forget before and after photos!
Jim Armstrong

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