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ECUSeaPA posted 12-08-2001 08:23 PM ET (US)   Profile for ECUSeaPA   Send Email to ECUSeaPA  
Anybody know anything about this boat. Seems to have been bantered around this forum before. I understand it is rough and in need of TLC, both motors are pretty much shot, and the trailer is about gone as well. Hull and transom are reported to be sound. Can anybody add anything? It's a long drive for me to look at it.

Here's the link:

http://www.boattraderonline.com/addetail.html?1604229

Thanks

tbirdsey posted 12-09-2001 08:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for tbirdsey  Send Email to tbirdsey     
I don't recall previous discussion about this boat nor do I know anything about it, but you are right, it obviously needs some TLC. Looking at the photos, I'd say the price is right for someone willing and able to take on what appear to be mostly cosmetic repairs. Unless there is some hidden damage to the hull, I'd say that's a GREAT price even if the engines and trailer are shot. I have an '84 which is set up very similar to this one and I can tell you this will be one beautiful boat when restored. If you are really interested in an 18, I'd make the drive. Good luck!
hauptjm posted 12-10-2001 12:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
$6,000 for the hull, $10,000 for a single 150hp mounted, $1,800 for a new trailer( or $1,000 for a decent used one) and, say, $3,000 to update electronics and various accessories. That's roughly $20,000. I hope the hull is in better shape than it looks.
DaveS posted 12-10-2001 12:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for DaveS  Send Email to DaveS     
I looked at that boat last week, took the whole day off just to drive down, when I did, I almost went for it but just couldn't pull the trigger. The hull seemed to be in OK shape but I noticed several things that I really didn't like. Where the roller meets the hull, there was a rather large indentation rather than a small dimple I would expect. Stress cracks on top of the transom that were open to let water in. The salesman demomstrated the strength of the transom by jumping on one of the engines and the transom didn't flex a bit. Tapping around the hull I found a few dead spots. There was one surveyor who looked at it and gave the hull a clean bill of health but I didn't talk with him personally. I'd like to hear what he thinks about the roller area. Other than that, knowing you are going to start from scratch on a lot of those things takes the guess work out of the engines and trailer.

The last reason I didn't trade for the boat was I have a 4 cylinder Ford Ranger and didn't want to kill the engine or transmission. If they would have thrown in a trailer with it I might have done it just because it was too good of a deal...but they didn't.

The people there were very open about the flaws of the setup and didn't try to cover anything up, it was just a bit big for the kind of fishing I have time to do.

Hope this helps. If you have more questions, just let me know.

Tight lines...

DaveS

ECUSeaPA posted 12-10-2001 02:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for ECUSeaPA  Send Email to ECUSeaPA     
They'll trade me a new trailer for $800., have accepted SUBSTANTIALLY less than the asking price, and hopefully I can get $500-$1000 out of the engines. $10K is probably a pretty safe number for a new motor, but I'll take all winter and look for a bargain/trade in/demo/leftover/last yr model etc to chop that down. If not, I'll get some really good paddles! The $3000 number is probably a little high, but a good safe number as well. I hope to get in for less, or at least make my wife believe I spent less. I think I can do it for about $15,000 max. At that point, everything is pretty new except the hull. Am I crazy??
Bigshot posted 12-10-2001 03:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
you are not crazy! I paid $4k for a Montauk and last week was gonna dump $6k on a new 4 stroke. That means I would have roughly $11,000+ into a 1989 hull that would be worth roughly the same. If your hull is clean(the pics look good) with new trailer and motor it should be worth 13-15k so it is on the money. Get 5 years out of it and roll it for $10k, you will make out great.
Bigshot posted 12-10-2001 03:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Split that deal with JB and you have a nice motor for $5k. Controls and guages can be bought on E-Bay pretty cheap. The old Rudes should fetch $1000 each if running good, the dual controls and guages should be worth a good buck on E-Bay. Go for it!
blackdog posted 12-10-2001 04:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog  Send Email to blackdog     
ECUSeaPA,
I bought my rig from these guys. You can Trust them. Very Honest. Who are you dealing with. Owner Joe?


I would buy from them again.

Blackdog

daverdla posted 12-10-2001 05:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for daverdla  Send Email to daverdla     
I didn't buy from them but flew down last winter to look at a used montauk. They were very accomodating, even picked me up at the local airport, Woodbine. They seemed to be honest about the condition of the used boats they had.
Dave
ECUSeaPA posted 12-10-2001 09:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for ECUSeaPA  Send Email to ECUSeaPA     
You know, I've been very impressed with my conversations with them. I'm dealing with Mike. He was very candid about the boat, motors and trailer. Took pictures of the "worst" parts of the boat and emailed to me. I've talked to people who looked at the boat and they appear to be pretty honest in their representation.

Also, there appear to be a lot of mid 90's motors around pretty cheap on EBay and Boattrader. I had my heart set on a 4 stroke but the numders are a lot better with an old EFI. Seems there have been a lot of trades on 4 strokes! I could get in under $10k.

JB's deal with the 4 strokes is gone. They sold last week. That would have been a sweet though!

ECUSeaPA posted 12-10-2001 09:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for ECUSeaPA  Send Email to ECUSeaPA     
OK, we need an "edit" function. This is embarrassing!
daverdla posted 12-10-2001 10:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for daverdla  Send Email to daverdla     
I think Mike was the salesman I dealt with. Good luck with the boat.
Dave
blackdog posted 12-11-2001 09:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog  Send Email to blackdog     
Mike Ryan was who I bought from.
Good guy

Blackdog

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