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KeysNole posted 12-13-2001 02:35 AM ET (US)   Profile for KeysNole   Send Email to KeysNole  
This boat is now on ebay for the decent price of $1995. The owner had it in the Boat Trader, but had no takers. I emailed him a while back, and it seems as though the trailer is worthless, and the motor might be suspect. I am interested in this boat because of the historical value. It seems like a true classic.

He said he has repainted the boat-is it the exact color that Whaler made them in 61? What about the steering wheel, console, etc? Obviously it has no running light as well. Any thoughts would be appreciated.


andygere posted 12-13-2001 03:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Better ask for a set of oars. Those mid 80's Merc 40's were real dogs. Boat looks pretty stock, but the wood needs to be refinished.
Bigshot posted 12-13-2001 10:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
i was gonna look at it but decided against it. Weary of a repaint due to unknown repairs. The transoms on these were prone to crack in the corners and that is my biggest concern. The wheel and wood looks stock but steering needs upgrade and I would replace wheel. The motor is worth maybe $500 so I can't see $1500 for it unless it was really nice but I have a gut feeling it aint.
lhg posted 12-13-2001 12:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
I'm with Andy on those Merc 2 cylinder 35's and 40's. They were real put-puts, in my estimation one of the worst engines Mercury ever made. I ended up with an overpowered 13' Whaler in 1970, because as a Mercury fan, the next suitable engine was a four cylinder 50HP, one of their all time great engines. OMC's 2 cylinder 40HP of those days, the predominant engine on the early 13's, was also a huge dog. The Mercs of those days had the CD ignition, power trim & thru hub exhaust, but not the OMC's. A friend had an Evinrude 40 on his 13, and the Merc 50 was nearly 15 MPH faster!
Tom W Clark posted 12-13-2001 12:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     


It's a nice old Whaler. Everything there looks original with the exception of (perhaps) the bow eye and the three bolts through the transom and ,of course, the plastic rod holders.

The wood needs to be refinished and the interior appears to be in great shape. Are we to understand that this is what the owner painted? The outside hull appears to not have been with the exception of the bottom. I would echo what Bigshot said about paint hiding things, but on the other hand there isn't going to be much under that paint that isn't just like any other Whaler of that vintage.

It is unfortunate that this boat survived for so long without bottom paint but now has it. On the other hand it does have the original rub rail. If the interior was painted, the rub rail was most likely left in place and masked off.

There are no lights nor side rails, and this is not unusual at all. It may be a bonus in so much as there are fewer screw holes in the hull. Lights can be retrofitted but the new style rub rail will have to be used to provide a conduit for the wiring. The hull probably does have the three original wires foamed into the hull but don't count on them to be any good after all these years, salt water or no.

Even the steering wheel is original (lose the automotive stitch-on cover) and I would keep the cable and pulley steering if it's the originality of this boat that appeals to you. Of course you would want to replace the cable and cable clamps and maybe the pulleys.

The Norman pins are all there as are the original molded in oar lock sockets.

As to it being worth $2000 I'd say that's the top of it's range. The motor and trailer are just about worthless. It's one of those things you really need to see in person to make a fair assessment.

KeysNole posted 12-13-2001 06:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for KeysNole  Send Email to KeysNole     
Thanks for the tips. Bigshot, you make a good point: this boat is probably not worth $1500 by itself.

By the way, how much would a teleflex steering conversion cost?

Tom, I think the owner painted the entire boat. It looks like he did a professional job, and the boat looks to be well maintained. Perhaps if the boat doesn't get bid on, I will email him and see what his bottom line is. Thanks for all the input.

jimp posted 12-13-2001 07:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimp  Send Email to jimp     
Minor, and easy fix. The steering cable needs thimbles on each side and also needs a toggle tightner to snug the cable. Come to think of it, I haven't seen the tightener for a while. We had one on my 1963 13-ftr.
jimh posted 12-15-2001 10:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
[Fixed the long URIs]

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