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hauptjm posted 12-17-2001 10:26 AM ET (US)   Profile for hauptjm  
Two new articles appear in todays marine industry news. One regarding Bombers "prediction" to reach the new CARB numbers for 2008. Accordingly, it seems the Ficht Technology is the closest to achieving the requirements now. Of course, I'm sure the other guys (particularly the 4 stroke crowd), won't sit around either. The other article touches on the new dealer arrangements.

lhg posted 12-17-2001 01:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
It's interesting they should make that projection, since, from what I have read, the Fichts were the "dirtiest" of the DFI's. The Merc 135 DFI Optimax is already there.
jbtaz posted 12-17-2001 01:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for jbtaz  Send Email to jbtaz     
Well Mercury claims it will maintain it's lead over emissions in the latest Boating Industry News.
lhg posted 12-17-2001 02:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
People should read the fine print in both articles. Bombardier says "Evinrude" will be the first "full line" to make it. Well, that's easy, since by definition Evinrude only makes clean technology engines. Expect Honda to be saying this also. They're not talking about "Johnson", the rest of their product.

As long as Mercury and Yamaha keep making the conventional two strokes up through 2005 (which I think they will), they will not be able to claim "full line" compliance, unless they intentionally separate their lines like Bombardier has done. All this Bombardier hype is just Madison avenue garbage, as they try to restore the Ficht name.

Currently Mercury has the most 2008 compliance models.

hauptjm posted 12-17-2001 02:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
At this point I don't know if it really matters one way or another, but I'm just happy to see the Evinrude/Johnson name in print for some other reason than bankruptcy.

For awhile there, I was really worried that the old OMC products would fall by the wayside (and maybe they still will), and thus kill competition. We all win if J&E produces the best 2 stroke ever. Because Mercury and Yamaha and Honda, etc. won't just give up: they'll produce better and better engines to keep up or surpass Bombardier.

Personally, I like two stroke engines. If someone can make one as clean as a four stroke, great. I might like the 4 stroke technology if they were as light and powerful, but to date they're not.

So, in the big scheme of things, let's see all of these manufacturers go back to the drawing board and give us some "real life" technology. Something that works on the water in real life conditions. Not something that works in the vaccuous state of their test labs, a la Ficht and Opti's.

I'll wager that in 2 or 3 years, we'll see some things coming out from these guys that will blow our doors off. Detroit did after building some of the worst cr-p ever to roll off an assembly line back in the 70's and early 80's.

In all, I'm very optimistic about the state of affairs in the marine industry, regarding powerplants. May the battle ensue.

hauptjm posted 12-17-2001 03:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
One last point:

It has been a year since I've seen Mercury "duked-it" out in the media. I guess they missed having OMC around to battle. Personally, I think Yammy and the other guys never really bothered the boys at Brunswick. This might be a lot of fun this spring!! It's already drawing out some brand loyality right here. To be continued....

hauptjm posted 12-18-2001 11:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
Some interesting statistics from the outboard industry:

Top 5 states in new outboard sales - year 2000, and their percentage increase over 1999 sales:

1. Florida +61.58%
2. Texas +43.95%
3. Louisiana +29.65%
4. N. Carolina* +39.37%
5. Minnesota +1.70%

*N.Carolina bumped Michigan out of the top 5 from '99.

Industry-wide, outboard sales increased 20.71% year over year. It will be interesting to see how the past year impacts these numbers.

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