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gene posted 01-18-2002 11:23 PM ET (US)   Profile for gene   Send Email to gene  
I was talking to Henry Smith today {one of Whalers original employee's} and I asked him how they were sure there were no voids in the hulls.he said "we stood them on end,mixed about ten gallons of the foam mixture and poured it into a hole in the back of the bow locker, before we did this we placed four long tubes inside the hull to allow air and foam to escape.. when the foam went off we should have had four snakes of foam shooting out of those tubes,if we did'nt we threw away the hull..I said what?? could'nt you fix them ?? nope, Henry said, it was too exspensive to repair them and it was my job to drive them out to the landfill and bury them! I then asked him how many he buried and if he had a shovel? he laughed and said he buried about 30 hulls there. you know.. people kept trying to buy them, while I was driving to the landfill!! I said,Henry do you remember where this landfill is? he said, yes but there's a problem..they're all underneath the new HomeDepot wharehouse!!
jimh posted 01-18-2002 11:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
That is a great story!

Thanks for posting it.

--jimh

Dr T posted 01-19-2002 01:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dr T  Send Email to Dr T     
Yes. It would tend to explain about the brown spot of foam in the achor locker of the 13 Sport.

tds

triblet posted 01-20-2002 09:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
I suspect some number of those blem hulls
were used for advertizing photography, such
as the chainsaw ads, and the bulldozer on
a 13' ad.

Chuck

triblet posted 01-20-2002 09:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
One problem with burying whalers: They
float. A buried tire is less dense than
wet earth and will eventually float up
through the dirt. I suspect a whaler hull
would have the same problem in spades.

Chuck

Ventura16 posted 01-20-2002 10:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ventura16  Send Email to Ventura16     
Sounds like the makings of a 50's horror flick...people run screaming as Whalers pop up through the floor into the plumbing section of Home Depot. "Clean up on aisle 3".

Tom

Dr T posted 01-20-2002 11:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dr T  Send Email to Dr T     
Just think what an archaeologist will make of the stratification when the area is excavated in 1000 years......

It will look like a burial ground for New Age Vikings.

Hey, guys look: They put their ashes in their boats and heaped their household goods on top. It is not as neat as those around 1000 AD, but there is a lot more junk......

They will probably call it the New England Whaler Cult.

Eagleman posted 01-20-2002 01:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Eagleman  Send Email to Eagleman     
Sounds very interseting I'm going to watch for these old hulls to "pop up" in aisle 7 at the Home Depot Warehouse. The winter in Wisconsin is getting long, hurry Spring!
JohnAz posted 01-20-2002 01:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for JohnAz  Send Email to JohnAz     
You realy think the Junk Yard scavengers or employees would leave a bunch of whalers just sit around to be burried alive,,,get real
gene posted 01-20-2002 03:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for gene  Send Email to gene     
Need 30 guys with shovels! Meet at Home Depot Rockland,Mass.,isle 7....
andygere posted 01-21-2002 12:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
When I worked at Burton Snowboards in the late 80's we would cut boards in half on a table saw if they failed QC. It was the only way to keep the dumpster divers from taking them. I wonder if Whaler did something similar to disable the flawed hulls (perhaps chainsaw out the transom?).
gene posted 01-21-2002 12:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for gene  Send Email to gene     
Henry said, "after those original thirty hulls were buried, the defective hulls after that were destroyed". They chopped them up pretty good. The ones they buried whole, would still be in good shape I imagine..?
lhg posted 01-21-2002 02:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
I think one of the guys on this site came up with one of those 30 hulls. I agree with John AZ. See recent thread on a real old Whaler with a big void in it.
dgp posted 01-21-2002 06:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for dgp  Send Email to dgp     
Gene, if people were trying to buy these boats from you on the way to the landfill, I'm sure there were "grave robbers" there after you left and the sun went down.
Flipper posted 01-21-2002 11:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Flipper  Send Email to Flipper     
This reminds me of the 'Lost Squadron' - half a dozen ( now rare ) warplanes buried under 250 feet of ice in Greenland - under the banners of the sponsors, one was retrieved. I can see it now - a hundred or so of our descendants gingerly lifting slabs of concrete with their bare hands while the CNN cameras(?) pan over to a Continuouswave flag, snapping in the breeze over an old ruin.
daverdla posted 01-21-2002 11:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for daverdla  Send Email to daverdla     
It was a P38 Lightning. They had hoped that the ice had formed a cocoon around the plane protecting from structural damage. No such luck. I think that its being restored. Apparently, there was very little corrosion.
Dave
gene posted 01-22-2002 01:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for gene  Send Email to gene     
dgp.. I didnt bury them! If I did, I would have drawn a treasure map..
Translation posted 01-23-2002 10:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for Translation    
Another legend from Rockland is that Dick Fisher ordered the defective hulls to be cut up and disposed of so no one would be able to figure out the proprietary (or "Top Secret") aspects of Whaler construction.
TightPenny posted 01-24-2002 02:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for TightPenny  Send Email to TightPenny     
The p-38 is being restored. It is well on its way to being put back into like new condition.

There is a website for this restoration, but I can't find the link.

triblet posted 01-24-2002 07:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
http://www.thelostsquadron.com/

An Alta Vista search on +"P-38" +Greenland
found it.


Chuck

JohnAz posted 01-24-2002 08:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for JohnAz  Send Email to JohnAz     
Maybe Home Depot would let us dig through the pluming department floor, in the intreest of history, to get some of the dead whales out from under thier floor, think of all the "good will", in the boadting industry
Flipper posted 01-24-2002 09:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for Flipper  Send Email to Flipper     
Thanks for that link, Triblet. I read the book by David Hayes, and was taken by this very underrated story of 'persistence'. I can't believe how far down those planes are! O.K., back to Whalers.......
boneydog56 posted 01-27-2002 11:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for boneydog56  Send Email to boneydog56     
April Fools...

Since I live near that home depot... Im gonna go in and demand they let me buy one of the boats. If they refuse i'll start trying to break the cement.

Then i'll spend the night in the slammer "How do you plead?" "insanity"

Chris (o:

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