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Alan Hiccock posted 02-02-2002 01:24 PM ET (US)   Profile for Alan Hiccock   Send Email to Alan Hiccock  
The boats a '88 15 sport with a 2000 Yamaha 70 under 100 hrs. The wood was recently redone, has a new bimini, custom cover and a nice trailer. I give the boat a strong 8 on the scale of 1-10 above average but some nicks and scuffs and it has been bottom painted, no signs of delamination or moisture. I checked it out today drove 100 miles and made an offer of $7,250 , its being brokered asking price is $10,500.
Owner said he'd take $ 9500... I figure the highest i'll go is $7500
Is this too high an offer for this rig??
Any comments would be great,
Thanks, Alan
JBCornwell posted 02-02-2002 02:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
I think you made a fair offer. The price is probably based on the recent repower, but $9500 is too much.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

Alan Hiccock posted 02-02-2002 02:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Alan Hiccock  Send Email to Alan Hiccock     
I think so too, N.A.D.A. as follows;, '88 15 BW sport average retail 2060, Yammie 2000 70 high retail 4500, its got a bimini, mooring cover, nice perko rodholders, 12 gal. tank, galvanized ez loader trailer... Also the boats on long Island sometimes we pay more here in NY Ive noticed on Boats.
{ the boat is really sweet, the engine looks brand new, pulled cover, no paint loss or touch up on skeg }
My criteria for for a 15 sport is new Yamaha power only or no motor{ then Ill repower w/Yammie} and above average cond. I really wanted no bottom paint but If I do get this , I might dock it since its painted.
Anyone around long Island have a nice 15 sport for sale. E mail me cash waiting..
thanks, Alan
bigz posted 02-02-2002 04:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
Alan, regardless when sold direct by owner, if under broker contract, unless there is a clause stating otherwise, the fellow will have to shell out the commission.

My guess 10%, actually why broker a 15' boat is beyond me --

The 70 hp Yamaha with new controls, like the 703 side mount with an aux. oil tank, tach, trim and volt gauges etc. retails in the area of $6500 to $6800. If he got a good deal maybe $6000 rigged.

The motor may still be under warranty or still be eligible for an extension through Yamaha. You check on that aspect.

$9500 ain't all that far out of line.

Alan Hiccock posted 02-02-2002 05:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for Alan Hiccock  Send Email to Alan Hiccock     
BigZ- thanks much for the '99 I payed around 8K for a new leftover Carolina Skiff pre rigged w/a 50 Evenrude spl.
no bimini, mooring cover .
When you figure the extra cost of a 70 Yamaha and the fact that a 15 BW sport is much better then a rolled hull Car Skiff then maybe I could justify a higher offer but I hope he takes my next one up 250 to 7500.
If this whaler wasnt bristol w/a new Yamaha and more I wouldnt even consider these #'s .
I think if I used it for 2 yrs. kept it in great cond. it would hold its value then many new boats { like a 15 sailfish ect.}
also easier to sell. One thing Ive learned over the years is name brands sell quicker when the time comes to do so. Nothing worst then trying to sell a boat that nobody wants.. selling anyboats a pain in the ass.
'nuff rambling.. thanks, Alan
BTW I wrote costom cover in one post but I think its a stock mooring cover on this thing, neat fit.
Bigshot posted 02-04-2002 11:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
I can get a 01 70 Yamaha with SS prop and controls for $4300. That hull aint worth $5k.
bigz posted 02-04-2002 12:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
BS sent me the name of the dealer and phone you can get the 70hp Yam for $4300 --- I'd like to talk to him!


andygere posted 02-04-2002 12:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Remember, a nearly new outboard isn't a new one, and the seller left a bunch of money on the showroom floor the day he took that motor home. He shouldn't realistically expect to pass that "loss" on to you. There has to be a discount for the 100 hours he put on the motor since you have no real way of knowing how he treated it during that time. $7500 is getting into Montauk money, albeit not with such a recent repower. For a clean 15 with a 2000 Yam 70, it's a fair deal, but I wouldn't go any higher.
Alan Hiccock posted 02-04-2002 01:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Alan Hiccock  Send Email to Alan Hiccock     
Very good points guys, thanks. I spoke to a guy yesterday who has a '98 17 proline, no b. paint , 90 Merc 100 hrs , trailer asking 9600.
I prefer & have my heart set on a whaler and will go 250 up on offer to 7500 in a day or 2 but with great boats/deals like the one on this 17 proline out there, Id be foolish to go any higher on the sport. I can always find another more reasonable also if I choose to .
Im not sure how many people will give him more the 7500 anyways my guess nobody.
Bigshot posted 02-04-2002 02:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Big difference is that proline is only $15k new and in 5 years will only be worth $5k. Keep looking for a Whaler, you'll find one. Heck buy a 1985 and repower it.

Z...Rudy 941-758-3821. Motor is a 2000 I believe, has ss prop, etc and the paint is not missing from the skeg. She is clean.

Alan Hiccock posted 02-06-2002 11:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for Alan Hiccock  Send Email to Alan Hiccock     
Well , He took my offer of 7500 and its a done deal, I pick it up Saturday. Im in love with this boat, its lines, cond. and a Yamaha 70 inj. '01.
I cant wait to take her out and will post the picts. soon to show her off a bit.
If I decide to step up soon a boat like this whalerw/a Yammie should hold its value better then most, a good thing.
Bigshot posted 02-06-2002 01:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Good job! Now send us 1/2 of the $2k you saved by asking us. We'll use it to buy some beer:)
Alan Hiccock posted 02-06-2002 01:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for Alan Hiccock  Send Email to Alan Hiccock     
Big shot,
checks in the mail!
Bigshot posted 02-06-2002 02:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Ok who like Pabst blue ribbon? Party at my house.
where2 posted 02-06-2002 08:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
Beer, yuk! Buy more gas, use whaler more... Fill up truck, tow whaler somewhere and use whaler... mmmm, that sounds good. :) I'll bring the wake board and help you use gas!!
Bigshot posted 02-07-2002 09:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Did you NOT read my post! I have a gas fairy, don't need to buy gas. Beer is expensive...about $5/gallon.
Bigshot posted 02-07-2002 09:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Make that $8/gallon for decent stuff.

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