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tabasco posted 02-05-2002 08:23 PM ET (US)   Profile for tabasco   Send Email to tabasco  
What length Bow, Stern & Spring lines do most owners use on a 17 ft Montauk? Also what thickness 1/2 inch?. Also what size anchor and lenght of line do most people use. Also what brand of anchor?

As you can tell the winter is getting long here in the northeast and I have to stir the pot with a few questions.

JohnAz posted 02-05-2002 08:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for JohnAz  Send Email to JohnAz     
Tomorrow when I go out on the Lake,,70deg here today, I will measure what I use for lines,,,,,
jimp posted 02-05-2002 09:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimp  Send Email to jimp     
Tabasco -

Lots of variables. Fixed or floating dock? Sheltered or exposed? Depth of water? Bottom? Etc.

For my old Montauk (have a 22 Revenge now)... 1/2"x20' 3-strand nylon with an eye on one end. Why? Because they were on sale for $5!

Anchor, best all-around was a the largest Danforth (2.5 pounder?) that would easily fit in the forward locker with 6' of chain and 100' of 1/2" 3-strand nylon. I carried an 8-lb Danforth and 200' of 1/2" 3-strand poly as backup for deeper water. The small anchor worked fine in sand, and OK with rocks - had to snag a rock and I bent the flukes several times, but the bent flukes let me get my anchor back.

JimP

triblet posted 02-06-2002 10:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
3/8".

The bow line is just less than the distance to
the prop. The stern lines are 15'. No spring
lines. Note that I don't tie up long term
ever.

Anchor is a 7 pound Danforth, 10' of chain,
200' of 3/8 hard lay nylon line. Don't get
the cheaper soft lay, it doesn't last. The
hard lay is aobut 50% more money, and so far
has lasted 3x longer and is still going
strong. The anchor, chain, and line all fit
in a cut down pickle barrel in the locker,
with the anchor on top. That leaves the area
around it for fenders, current line, etc.

The Danforth is suberb in sand, OK in rocks.
Just make sure to put a little friction on the
line as it drops so it doesn't tangle with the
chain on the way down. If it tangles, it
won't hold at all.

Don't use polypropylene for an anchor line.
It's not nearly as strong as nylon, and
doesn't stretch, so there's no cushioning
effect.


Chuck

jimp posted 02-06-2002 11:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimp  Send Email to jimp     
triblet -

Concur with poly not being good as a primary anchor rode. I use my 200' to extend the first 100' of 3-strand nylon (300' total). Good point.

Remember a few years ago, Jacques Cousteau anchored the Calypso in 15,000' of water... using poly! Of course he didn't stay anchored long...

JimP

tabasco posted 02-06-2002 07:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for tabasco  Send Email to tabasco     
Hey JohnAZ - did you want me to send out an SOS you've been out on that lake a long time measuring :=)
Bigshot posted 02-07-2002 09:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
I use either 15 or 20' 3/8" on all my rides. 1/2" is a buster to tie on my cleats and 3'8 will hold plenty of weight as long as they are good rope. I use blue or black braided lines.
tabasco posted 02-11-2002 10:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for tabasco  Send Email to tabasco     
Thanks everyone ......that was very helpful information. Went out and bought nice red 3/8 triple braid line today.

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