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Ready2Rip posted 02-06-2002 07:02 PM ET (US)
I'm looking at a '89 Revenge 22 and it's equipped with a Yamaha 200 outboard. The dealer says that's the original engine that came with the boat. Is this correct?
Also, is the Yamaha 200 a good engine? The boat shows 297 hours on it - is this about average for an '89? Is there anything else I should look out for?
Thanks,
Mike
Peter posted 02-06-2002 07:52 PM ET (US)
Mike,
That probably is the original engine. 297 hours works out to about 25 hours per year, which I would call light usage if it is accurate. Seems low to me but it could be right.
If that is the original engine and it has been used in salt water, make sure that you have the shift shaft checked for corrosion as I have heard that the shift shaft is subject to corrosion failure. I think it is a relatively expensive repair. You would be wise to have it checked out by a good Yamaha mechanic.
MCano posted 02-06-2002 10:42 PM ET (US)
Mike,
I’ve owned my 1986 Outrage Cuddy with a 1988 Yamaha 200 for 13 years now. I have over 900 hours (not a lot for the age) on my engine, and have always used it in salt water. I keep the boat in the water year around. In 13 years I have experienced a few problems. Some minor, others were very expensive to repair:
 Replaced water pump.
 Replace a rod that is part of the shifting mechanism. The rod, about the diameter of a pencil, is exposed to the elements and rusted through. I had it replaced with a stainless steel unit. I’m sorry that I can't remember the name of the part, but it was very expensive to replace.
 Replaced oil sending unit.
 Had to repaint the cowling.
 Power head bolts froze and required replacement when I had that rod replaced (expensive).
 Select parts of the motor bracket required repainting from rust/corrosion.

Overall, I think the motor has performed well. However, Yamaha did not use enough stainless steel parts. As a result, many exposed parts are exhibiting signs of corrosion.
Regards,
Mario
Clark Roberts posted 02-07-2002 06:00 AM ET (US)
Ready, be sure to check the power trim unit for corrosion, especially the elec. motor housing. And, as a condition of sale I would require that the owner have the water pump replaced ... this to make sure all bolts come out clean and that the drive shaft spline isn't frozen (corrosion) into the crank. If you buy and then attempt a pump change and find out..etc... then motor is almost worthless.. also have the owner pull the prop to make sure it's not frozen to prop shaft! I've been there, done that, and wished I had been more skeptical! This advice is relavant to all makes in that age bracket! Additionally, there's the compression check, lower unit oil/pressure test.. etc.. etc... blah,,,blah..blah... Happy Whalin'... Clark... Old Engine Dept of Spruce Creek Navy
Ready2Rip posted 02-07-2002 12:10 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the feedback. Now if I can only get my wife excited about owning a second boat, I'll be all set! ; )
Mike
csj posted 02-17-2002 10:04 AM ET (US)
Congrats on your new addition. I just recently picked up the same whaler, 1989 22'revenge w/ 1989 200 yamaha. C.R. pretty much nailed down what you should have checked, yet your seller may not wish to provide all these services. My advice is at minimum a compression check, check the lower unit oil for water, a water test, and pull the prop. I'm curious to hear the asking price ? good luck
Ready2Rip posted 02-18-2002 11:02 AM ET (US)
CSJ,
Asking price was $16K, and we're now at $13,500. That seems like a good price if the engine is sound. Owner has no paperwork on recent engine work, and he said everything worked great (all electronics, etc.). Turns out that the speedo doesn't work, there are no running lights, and one of the cabin lights is broken off & held on with duct tape. Other than these issues, it looks pretty clean. I'll just have to wait for the results of the engine survey.
Take care,
Mike

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Author	Topic: Yamaha 200 on a Revenge 22
Ready2Rip	posted 02-06-2002 07:02 PM ET (US) I'm looking at a '89 Revenge 22 and it's equipped with a Yamaha 200 outboard. The dealer says that's the original engine that came with the boat. Is this correct? Also, is the Yamaha 200 a good engine? The boat shows 297 hours on it - is this about average for an '89? Is there anything else I should look out for? Thanks, Mike
Peter	posted 02-06-2002 07:52 PM ET (US) Mike, That probably is the original engine. 297 hours works out to about 25 hours per year, which I would call light usage if it is accurate. Seems low to me but it could be right. If that is the original engine and it has been used in salt water, make sure that you have the shift shaft checked for corrosion as I have heard that the shift shaft is subject to corrosion failure. I think it is a relatively expensive repair. You would be wise to have it checked out by a good Yamaha mechanic.
MCano	posted 02-06-2002 10:42 PM ET (US) Mike, I’ve owned my 1986 Outrage Cuddy with a 1988 Yamaha 200 for 13 years now. I have over 900 hours (not a lot for the age) on my engine, and have always used it in salt water. I keep the boat in the water year around. In 13 years I have experienced a few problems. Some minor, others were very expensive to repair:  Replaced water pump.  Replace a rod that is part of the shifting mechanism. The rod, about the diameter of a pencil, is exposed to the elements and rusted through. I had it replaced with a stainless steel unit. I’m sorry that I can't remember the name of the part, but it was very expensive to replace.  Replaced oil sending unit.  Had to repaint the cowling.  Power head bolts froze and required replacement when I had that rod replaced (expensive).  Select parts of the motor bracket required repainting from rust/corrosion. Overall, I think the motor has performed well. However, Yamaha did not use enough stainless steel parts. As a result, many exposed parts are exhibiting signs of corrosion. Regards, Mario
Clark Roberts	posted 02-07-2002 06:00 AM ET (US) Ready, be sure to check the power trim unit for corrosion, especially the elec. motor housing. And, as a condition of sale I would require that the owner have the water pump replaced ... this to make sure all bolts come out clean and that the drive shaft spline isn't frozen (corrosion) into the crank. If you buy and then attempt a pump change and find out..etc... then motor is almost worthless.. also have the owner pull the prop to make sure it's not frozen to prop shaft! I've been there, done that, and wished I had been more skeptical! This advice is relavant to all makes in that age bracket! Additionally, there's the compression check, lower unit oil/pressure test.. etc.. etc... blah,,,blah..blah... Happy Whalin'... Clark... Old Engine Dept of Spruce Creek Navy
Ready2Rip	posted 02-07-2002 12:10 PM ET (US) Thanks for the feedback. Now if I can only get my wife excited about owning a second boat, I'll be all set! ; ) Mike
csj	posted 02-17-2002 10:04 AM ET (US) Congrats on your new addition. I just recently picked up the same whaler, 1989 22'revenge w/ 1989 200 yamaha. C.R. pretty much nailed down what you should have checked, yet your seller may not wish to provide all these services. My advice is at minimum a compression check, check the lower unit oil for water, a water test, and pull the prop. I'm curious to hear the asking price ? good luck
Ready2Rip	posted 02-18-2002 11:02 AM ET (US) CSJ, Asking price was $16K, and we're now at $13,500. That seems like a good price if the engine is sound. Owner has no paperwork on recent engine work, and he said everything worked great (all electronics, etc.). Turns out that the speedo doesn't work, there are no running lights, and one of the cabin lights is broken off & held on with duct tape. Other than these issues, it looks pretty clean. I'll just have to wait for the results of the engine survey. Take care, Mike