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jmp posted 02-08-2002 11:42 PM ET (US)   Profile for jmp   Send Email to jmp  
Does anyone have any close-up photos of the area where the rear bilge pump hose meets the interior of the hull on a 22 outrage/guardian. What I am interested in is the cover that the hose goes through and what covers the big hole Whaler cut in the inside wall. Trying to restore 22 foot guardian and this was missing and no one seems to know where I can buy a new one so....time to make one.

Thanks, John
jmp100@adelphia.net

Tom W Clark posted 02-09-2002 08:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
jmp,

I was just looking at on today and would have taken a photo if I had known it to be useful. However, I can tell you there isn't much to it.

It is made of thin plastic the same thickness and texture of the fire extinguisher pocket. I suspect it may be made by the same manufacturer. Its shape is like a drinking glass with about a half inch flange around the rim which overlays the hull and is pop riveted to it (presumably with a bead of sealant behind it)

lhg posted 02-11-2002 01:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
I have one of these in my 25, and can get a picture in a few weeks. It's definitely an unusual item, and I've never seen anything like it a catalog. It's possible they may still be using something like this in the current Guardians, or current models. I'd call the factory for the part, which is called "Cup, bilge Pump, #12321500.

Actually, I often wondered why they used this detail at all. Seemed like a lot of extra work just so a standard short tailed plastic thru-hull (for a single walled hull) could be used. Maybe you could install a long tailed bronze thru-hull instead, and put a starboard plate over the inner shell cut-out.

Incidentally, what color is the exposed foam?

jmp posted 02-11-2002 02:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for jmp  Send Email to jmp     
All the foam I have exposed is a light tan color. An interesting thing I have discovered, whaler filled in all the built-in bait tanks with foam and glassed over them. This foam does not absorb water. However the foam around the fuel tank appears to be of a different type. It looks more like the type you by at Home Depot in the cans. I am the first owner after the navy.

John

DIVE 1 posted 02-11-2002 11:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for DIVE 1    
JMP,
I have another 22' Guardian that I am working on and have plenty of extra parts. I think that I have an extra cup. I will gladly send it to you. Do you need any other parts-I could just make up a care package for you.
Jim
jmp posted 02-12-2002 02:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for jmp  Send Email to jmp     
Dive1 that would be great. There are a few other small items I am looking for. If you could send me your e-mail I will send you a list. Or if you like, e-mail me your phone number and I will give you a call, this is my first guardian and I have a few questions.

John
jmp100@adelphia.net

Smallfrye posted 02-12-2002 10:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for Smallfrye  Send Email to Smallfrye     
Having had the same problem on a previous BW, I used a white cup holder with the bottom cut out and a plastic extension added from cutting up a second cup holder.
When glued togeather and foamed in place, this looked like the original.
The cup holder is the standard issue type, made to fit into a cut out with a small lip around the edge.

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