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controller posted 02-15-2002 12:12 AM ET (US)
I will be having dealer bottom paint my new 16 Daunltess soon and was wondering what your opinion is on color of bottom paint. Would you do the royal blue, navy blue, or I was thinking of Whaler Red. Will the red make a differnce when fishing, will it look good?
What color do you have?
tabasco posted 02-15-2002 07:40 AM ET (US)
Your choice should be RED, RED or RED and that's it.
bigz posted 02-15-2002 09:48 AM ET (US)
Traditionally Whaler dealers used Interlux BottomKote or type similar blue when a boat needed bottom paint protection.
Today there are better paints than that which may be could be better suited for your boats conditions.
The most used colors are still blue and black. All reds fade very fast.
You might go with a multi-season paint cost a little more up front but depending on the amount of time sitting in the water may last up to 3 years. A good technique when using this type is have the first coat applied in say a neutral gray and then the top coats in color of your choice. This facilitates visually you knowing when it's time to repaint that is when you start to see the first coat color showing ---
Z
Arch Autenreith posted 02-15-2002 10:19 AM ET (US)
controller.
BLUE, BLUE, BLUE (lighter color, that is). That's what I'll be painting mine soon.
Sorry, tobasco ;-)
Peter posted 02-15-2002 10:55 AM ET (US)
Whatever color you choose, I recommend that you insist that the dealer use a multiseason ablative paint. It is much easier to care for over the long run. I have personally used Interlux Micron CSC for about the last 10 years. There is very little, if any, paint build up from season to season. In fact, in my experience, I have only had to paint the entire bottom about once every three seasons or so. However, the waterline area usually requires attention every year.
andygere posted 02-15-2002 11:00 AM ET (US)
I chose the blue because it was a nice match for the Carribian Blue Mills Canvas set. I set it off with a 3/4" red tape stripe, 1/2" above the bottom paint edge. I think it looks sharp. I also used the Micron CSC, and so far I really like it (no growth after 6 months). Instead of sanding the bottom, I used the Interlux sandless primer system. I just could bear to sand into my gelcoat!
Whalerdan posted 02-15-2002 11:03 AM ET (US)
I don't have bottom paint but if I did, I think the light blue with a red stripe looks best.
whalerron posted 02-15-2002 11:46 AM ET (US)
Cetecea page 33, the Minot model. It's bottom is dark blue with the red stripe....it's mine, so of course I like that color scheme the best!
Tom W Clark posted 02-15-2002 01:19 PM ET (US)
Bottom paint? Yuck! If you really have to have it, and many do, then at least make it as inconspicuous as possible. When I did my last Montauk it came with red which just reminds me of red oxide primer. I redid that boat in white which is not the same color as the Outrage Gray but it is close enough that it wasn't really noticeable. No boot stripe and it didn't spoil the beautiful lines of the hull.
If I had to choose a color other than white then black is tolerable. Blue, red and green just make me want to look the other way but remember: all this is from a guy who thinks blue canvas is b.u.
Sunbrella in the green-gray is much saltier looking and has away been my preference and in addition it harks back to the days of the cotton canvas of the early Whalers.
roger8918 posted 02-15-2002 10:45 PM ET (US)
Andy, I have seen the combination of blue bottom paint with a red accent strip and have always thought it looked great but I have never seen the tape for sale. Where can I get a roll or so and is it hard to apply it yourself and still get a good looking job?
Tom Byrum posted 02-15-2002 11:36 PM ET (US)
Some tuna chasers out here on the West Coast are painting fish on thier hulls. Supposed to simulate a school of albacore crashing baitfish. I realize with a 16' boat you are probably not a hardcore tuna fisherman, and also to a non tuna fisherman this will sound wierd. Actually I am one of those tuna chasers and it sounds pretty strange to me. (no painted fish on my hull yet)
Tom
lhg posted 02-16-2002 01:19 AM ET (US)
I hate the stuff too, but I think black is the only color to use. Look at the larger luxury boats, black is universally used, even by Sea Ray! The blues went out of use 30 years ago. Go to any boat show, the only color you'll see is black.
The reason bottom paint looks so bad on a Whaler are the unique hull lines, which the paint has to cut across randomly to follow the water line. On most other boats, the bottom paint line can follow the conventional hull line.
It instantly knocks about 2 thousand off the value of your Whaler to many people, since so many are kept on trailers, and those people hate the bottom paint and will pay more for a boat without it.
andygere posted 02-17-2002 04:49 AM ET (US)
Roger, here's how I did it: First, I marked the waterline with a pencil (swimming around it while in the slip). After measuring to ensure symetry, I used a laser level to "connect the dots", which I did using 3M fine line autobody tape. This is a plastic masking tape, and is essential for a clean paint line. After painting, I left the fine line tape in place (it's 1/2" wide) and used it to align the red tape stripe above. Finally, I peeled the fine line tape off. Don't leave the fine line on too long in hot weather or you'll have to work a little to get the glue residue off. The red tape stripe is at Boat US, West and other marine stores, and has a paper backing. Just start one end, and peel, align and stick about a foot at a time, working more tape off the roll as you go. Some fancy work with a razor blade is needed to do a nice job at the intersections, especially at the bow and front of the sponsons.
tabasco posted 02-17-2002 08:58 AM ET (US)
Wait everybody ........before you choose your bottom paint color......I will shoot of a fax to Martha Stuart and get her input......."it's a good thing"
Bigshot posted 02-18-2002 10:42 AM ET (US)
With Larry on this. I have tried every bottom color except coper I think and unfortunately Black is the only way to go. My reason is simple and you might just agree.
When you paint it red or light blue, white, green, etc it looks awesome. Color matches the bimini just perfect and all is goo. Well...all is good for 2 weeks then a scum line starts to form....then the whgole bottom seems to turn shade different than the waterline are and you have 2 tone bottom that does not resemble the original color you painted it. Black remains black except for a slight green hue on waterline. It also matches everything, including rubrail and the Merc on back:( It also touches up real nice. WHere your red turned brown and now you touch up with flaming red again, etc.
Think about it. I would love a red paint but hate the results.
controller posted 02-18-2002 01:10 PM ET (US)
I will take you advice and go with Black. thanks
Ray posted 02-18-2002 03:41 PM ET (US)
Controler
I am surprised that no one commented with this. I have white on my 25 Revenge and you cannot hardly notice that it is painted. If I had to do it over again I would do the same. It is Interlux 498 with Biolix. It is designed for Aluminum hulls but works very fine for fiberglas. Mine is in fresh water so check for salt if that is where you use it. I used red on my first whaler and blue on my second one. Neither looked nearly as nice as the white.
Ray
Bigshot posted 02-19-2002 05:02 PM ET (US)
The white for salt water is actually a grey and does not hold up well. It will turn funky in notime.

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Author	Topic: Color of bottom paint
controller	posted 02-15-2002 12:12 AM ET (US) I will be having dealer bottom paint my new 16 Daunltess soon and was wondering what your opinion is on color of bottom paint. Would you do the royal blue, navy blue, or I was thinking of Whaler Red. Will the red make a differnce when fishing, will it look good? What color do you have?
tabasco	posted 02-15-2002 07:40 AM ET (US) Your choice should be RED, RED or RED and that's it.
bigz	posted 02-15-2002 09:48 AM ET (US) Traditionally Whaler dealers used Interlux BottomKote or type similar blue when a boat needed bottom paint protection. Today there are better paints than that which may be could be better suited for your boats conditions. The most used colors are still blue and black. All reds fade very fast. You might go with a multi-season paint cost a little more up front but depending on the amount of time sitting in the water may last up to 3 years. A good technique when using this type is have the first coat applied in say a neutral gray and then the top coats in color of your choice. This facilitates visually you knowing when it's time to repaint that is when you start to see the first coat color showing --- Z
Arch Autenreith	posted 02-15-2002 10:19 AM ET (US) controller. BLUE, BLUE, BLUE (lighter color, that is). That's what I'll be painting mine soon. Sorry, tobasco ;-)
Peter	posted 02-15-2002 10:55 AM ET (US) Whatever color you choose, I recommend that you insist that the dealer use a multiseason ablative paint. It is much easier to care for over the long run. I have personally used Interlux Micron CSC for about the last 10 years. There is very little, if any, paint build up from season to season. In fact, in my experience, I have only had to paint the entire bottom about once every three seasons or so. However, the waterline area usually requires attention every year.
andygere	posted 02-15-2002 11:00 AM ET (US) I chose the blue because it was a nice match for the Carribian Blue Mills Canvas set. I set it off with a 3/4" red tape stripe, 1/2" above the bottom paint edge. I think it looks sharp. I also used the Micron CSC, and so far I really like it (no growth after 6 months). Instead of sanding the bottom, I used the Interlux sandless primer system. I just could bear to sand into my gelcoat!
Whalerdan	posted 02-15-2002 11:03 AM ET (US) I don't have bottom paint but if I did, I think the light blue with a red stripe looks best.
whalerron	posted 02-15-2002 11:46 AM ET (US) Cetecea page 33, the Minot model. It's bottom is dark blue with the red stripe....it's mine, so of course I like that color scheme the best!
Tom W Clark	posted 02-15-2002 01:19 PM ET (US) Bottom paint? Yuck! If you really have to have it, and many do, then at least make it as inconspicuous as possible. When I did my last Montauk it came with red which just reminds me of red oxide primer. I redid that boat in white which is not the same color as the Outrage Gray but it is close enough that it wasn't really noticeable. No boot stripe and it didn't spoil the beautiful lines of the hull. If I had to choose a color other than white then black is tolerable. Blue, red and green just make me want to look the other way but remember: all this is from a guy who thinks blue canvas is b.u. Sunbrella in the green-gray is much saltier looking and has away been my preference and in addition it harks back to the days of the cotton canvas of the early Whalers.
roger8918	posted 02-15-2002 10:45 PM ET (US) Andy, I have seen the combination of blue bottom paint with a red accent strip and have always thought it looked great but I have never seen the tape for sale. Where can I get a roll or so and is it hard to apply it yourself and still get a good looking job?
Tom Byrum	posted 02-15-2002 11:36 PM ET (US) Some tuna chasers out here on the West Coast are painting fish on thier hulls. Supposed to simulate a school of albacore crashing baitfish. I realize with a 16' boat you are probably not a hardcore tuna fisherman, and also to a non tuna fisherman this will sound wierd. Actually I am one of those tuna chasers and it sounds pretty strange to me. (no painted fish on my hull yet) Tom
lhg	posted 02-16-2002 01:19 AM ET (US) I hate the stuff too, but I think black is the only color to use. Look at the larger luxury boats, black is universally used, even by Sea Ray! The blues went out of use 30 years ago. Go to any boat show, the only color you'll see is black. The reason bottom paint looks so bad on a Whaler are the unique hull lines, which the paint has to cut across randomly to follow the water line. On most other boats, the bottom paint line can follow the conventional hull line. It instantly knocks about 2 thousand off the value of your Whaler to many people, since so many are kept on trailers, and those people hate the bottom paint and will pay more for a boat without it.
andygere	posted 02-17-2002 04:49 AM ET (US) Roger, here's how I did it: First, I marked the waterline with a pencil (swimming around it while in the slip). After measuring to ensure symetry, I used a laser level to "connect the dots", which I did using 3M fine line autobody tape. This is a plastic masking tape, and is essential for a clean paint line. After painting, I left the fine line tape in place (it's 1/2" wide) and used it to align the red tape stripe above. Finally, I peeled the fine line tape off. Don't leave the fine line on too long in hot weather or you'll have to work a little to get the glue residue off. The red tape stripe is at Boat US, West and other marine stores, and has a paper backing. Just start one end, and peel, align and stick about a foot at a time, working more tape off the roll as you go. Some fancy work with a razor blade is needed to do a nice job at the intersections, especially at the bow and front of the sponsons.
tabasco	posted 02-17-2002 08:58 AM ET (US) Wait everybody ........before you choose your bottom paint color......I will shoot of a fax to Martha Stuart and get her input......."it's a good thing"
Bigshot	posted 02-18-2002 10:42 AM ET (US) With Larry on this. I have tried every bottom color except coper I think and unfortunately Black is the only way to go. My reason is simple and you might just agree. When you paint it red or light blue, white, green, etc it looks awesome. Color matches the bimini just perfect and all is goo. Well...all is good for 2 weeks then a scum line starts to form....then the whgole bottom seems to turn shade different than the waterline are and you have 2 tone bottom that does not resemble the original color you painted it. Black remains black except for a slight green hue on waterline. It also matches everything, including rubrail and the Merc on back:( It also touches up real nice. WHere your red turned brown and now you touch up with flaming red again, etc. Think about it. I would love a red paint but hate the results.
controller	posted 02-18-2002 01:10 PM ET (US) I will take you advice and go with Black. thanks
Ray	posted 02-18-2002 03:41 PM ET (US) Controler I am surprised that no one commented with this. I have white on my 25 Revenge and you cannot hardly notice that it is painted. If I had to do it over again I would do the same. It is Interlux 498 with Biolix. It is designed for Aluminum hulls but works very fine for fiberglas. Mine is in fresh water so check for salt if that is where you use it. I used red on my first whaler and blue on my second one. Neither looked nearly as nice as the white. Ray
Bigshot	posted 02-19-2002 05:02 PM ET (US) The white for salt water is actually a grey and does not hold up well. It will turn funky in notime.