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Towing vehicle survey
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posted 02-16-2002 09:56 AM ET (US)
As I will be new at towing my new montauk (ran into trouble .......no one wanted to install a trailer hitch on a mercedes S class and Uhaul only offers a type one hitch and wanted to cut my bumper :-( ). Interested to find out what type of vehicle you whaler people use to tow your Montauk. I sure most use SUV's that's a given but for those of us that don't own one, what type of vehicle do you use to tow you boat? What adjustments were needed to your car? Did you have to install a transmission cooler? Anything have to be done to the brakes to improve stopping ability or overheating? Any input would be appreciated.
Thank you in advance for your response.
posted 02-16-2002 09:59 AM ET (US)
Don't know what's going on but the last two post have come up double on the forum.
posted 02-16-2002 10:24 AM ET (US)
I tow my Dauntless 14 (1000lb) with a 75hp Merc (304lb) with my 4cycl 190E. Got a frame bolt on hitch from U-Haul. They had to special order it, but it was a U-Haul model. The "dealer" just didn't have one in stock. No cutting the bumper ( I wouldn't allow that). I pull up some hills but nothing that long and steep. No problems.
Obviously your S class will have no problems pulling a Montauk. Ask about a frame bolt on or go to a special hitch dealer and have one made for you. It's not rocket science.
posted 02-16-2002 12:08 PM ET (US)
Howdy, Tabasco. I have towed my Montauk about 10,000 miles and my OR-18 about 1500 miles with my ML320.
The Montauk is usually loaded with all my fishing gear, cooler full of ice and food and, at least part of the time, 28 gallons of fuel. The engine is a Suzi DF70, which weighs about 350# with prop, etc. Probably grosses about 2000#. Cruises at 70-75 in 5th, shifts down to 4th on moderate grades and to 3rd on steep grades.
No modifications to the vehicle with tow package. Never overheats. I consider it the perfect vehicle for long distance towing of a Montauk.
Towing the Outrage with no fuel and a 350# engine (gross about 2600#) the ML works harder (spends a lot more time in 3rd), hard enough that I am considering going to a ML430. Still, the 320 will maintain 65-70, never overheated, etc.
Red sky at night. . .
posted 02-16-2002 02:30 PM ET (US)
I haul my Montauk with an Isuzu Trooper.(3.2 V6) I have to remember that it is there most of the time! Last summer I hauled it to a lake in Maine where the last 60 miles was on a gravel road...no worries. The ease of towing and launching the boat is beautiful.
posted 02-17-2002 06:10 PM ET (US)
I tow my Montauk with a 2001 Toyota Highlander. It replaced a 1985 Chevy Full size truck (w/V8) as the tow vehicle. The Highlander has the V6 and tow package. It is SWEET! Tows like a dream; no effort-much, much better than the truck.
posted 02-18-2002 10:49 AM ET (US)
Towed my Montauk with a 560SEC and it towed it fine. Hitch was $200 installed and same hitch applies to sedan. Newer 140 style, etc I am not sure but avail for a 126 body. If you have the hydraulic rear suspension, I might reconsider because parts for that are VERY expensive(I know).
I currently am trying to mimic my hero JB and have a Montauk with a 70 Evinzuki and a ML320. The ML tows flawlessly and all-time 4wd is priceless. I do tow in 4th on the highway because it does not care for O/D too much. I even tow my 6000lb Baja with it.
posted 02-18-2002 12:00 PM ET (US)
I used to tow my montauk with a 4X4 pathfinder. It pulled it fine, but I would suggest a tranny cooler. I decided to sell it and now got a full size ford f250 super duty 4X4 crew cab.
I know its an over kill, but I do tow my other boat which is a 22 Hydrasport vector walk around.
posted 02-18-2002 12:30 PM ET (US)
Just installed hitch on my wife's '98 Toy 4Runner (v6) last night. Reese Class III bolts up with 6 bolts in 12.5 minutes. Disassembling the rear interior panels to hookup the "plug-n-play" wiring harness took more like 1.5 hours. Then again, I fished the wires through the frame, made a cut-out for the harness to come through the storage bin in the fender well, and was generally being much more careful than I had to be installing the frame mount hitch.
As for modifications, I anticipate no modifications to the vehicle until I get the 26' Hunter sailboat! Then a tranny oil cooler, and other heavy duty items might be in order. How much does a loaded Montauk weigh? I tow my 15' Sport with a VW Corrado. Granted, I can't do 0-60mph in 7.5 sec, but 4 wheel discs w/ ABS and 158hp get it to and from a standstill just fine. Then again, I wouldn't tow it through the mountains like this. I'm a flat-lander in South Florida. Biggest incline around here is a bridge!!
posted 02-18-2002 12:58 PM ET (US)
Curious did you have a transmission cooler on that 560 SEC. Also what brand hitch did you use and was it a type 1 or type 2 hitch. How about the wiring any problem or did you just use the standard flat four connector. Did it effect the engine computer at all?
posted 02-18-2002 01:22 PM ET (US)
Forgot to mention: My son tows his Montauk with his ML320, too.
Red sky at night. . .
posted 02-18-2002 02:04 PM ET (US)
A class 1 hitch is only good to 2000 pounds.
A Montauk could easily exceed that.
You want at least a Class 2.
I installed the bolt on hitches on my last two
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