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FISHNFF posted 02-18-2002 01:38 AM ET (US)   Profile for FISHNFF   Send Email to FISHNFF  
I realize that just about anything can tow a Montauk, but throw in some hills, steep long winding ones, and the equation changes. I plan to take my Whaler to Lake Tahoe and have some concerns about slowing down. My Pontiac Montana mini-van has the tow package with heavy duty engine and tranny cooling, and auto leveling rear suspension. Never have I seen larger brakes in a tow package. Seems to me if you gotta get this heavier load moving, you gotta stop it! About $700 to add disc brakes to my trailer now. What do you guys think?
triblet posted 02-18-2002 06:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
I don't think I would. I've towed my Montauk
to some of the gold country lakes and haven't
felt the need. And there's two big hills
each way to Monterey every weekend.

Wind resistance plus engine braking seems to
keep it from accelerating downhill without
gas. I do have a stickshift, so I get more
engine braking than a slushbox, however,
I think it's more wind resistance than
anything else.

Chuck

Bigshot posted 02-18-2002 10:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
2 things...I doubt you need them and....$700 is an absolute ripoff. My SS discs on my Baja trailer were $350 and lasted a lowsy 4 years. BRAKES SUCK! But you need them unfortunately on bigger rigs. Ironic that un and fortune are in that word.
andygere posted 02-18-2002 11:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
I tow mine with a stock Jeep Wrangler over the Santa Cruz Mountains (Highway 17) frequently without problems. You do need to drive carefully and keep speed down on the decents.
seasicknes posted 02-18-2002 11:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for seasicknes    
I really doubt that you will need trailer brakes. Just leave enough space ahead of you.

Ken

Jerry Townsend posted 02-18-2002 12:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
FISHNFF - you should be alright. Use your engine and tranny as possible - and don't be hesitant to pull your tranny down a notch. With the heavy duty engine and tranny with the transmission cooling, you will be just fine.

In my case, with a 17 OR, a 3/4 ton 4x4 pickup with a camper and surge brakes on the trailer, I will pull the transmission out of O/D into 3rd while going downhill and if going down a steep slope (in Idaho, Wyoming or Montana) and going slow enough (20 - 30 mph), I will pull it into 2nd. --- Jerry/Idaho

kingfish posted 02-18-2002 01:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Looks like I'm way in the minority here but my $.02 anyway...I've hauled a Montauk and an Outrage 22' all over the country and I wouldn't be without trailer brakes on either one. The Montauk is a lot lighter than the Outrage to be sure, so there's less of an 800 lb. gorilla back there wanting to climb up your tail pipe, but there are conditions where the space you keep in front of you diminishes below what you need to stop in ways that are beyond your control. You don't need disc brakes for a Montauk (though if you're going to install brakes anyway, I'd recommend them), and you should be able to get either drums or discs for about half of what you've been quoted or less.

kingfish

lhg posted 02-18-2002 05:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
I tow my 18 Outrage (about a 3500# total load) without brakes, and my 25 with 4 wheel brakes. Admittedly, the 25 rig stops faster than the 18, but I still don't even think they're needed on an 18. As mentioned, transmission braking helps down steep hills, and you must allow more stopping/tailgating room when on the road. Anti-lock braking on the tow vehicle is also of some help. I have yet to see an 18 Outrage on a trailer equipped with brakes.
FISHNFF posted 02-18-2002 10:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for FISHNFF  Send Email to FISHNFF     
Thanks all for your opinions on the matter. While I do most of my towing with my 1993 Ford F-150 XLT 302 V-8 and have absolutely no problems, I was a little worried about my mini-van. I'll be sure to stay below the GVWR
and take it easy. The short jaunts I've taken lately prove to be fine. Thanks again.

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