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Landlocked posted 02-20-2002 10:52 AM ET (US)   Profile for Landlocked   Send Email to Landlocked  
Probably dumb question to those of you who have done it but I haven't. I need to remove my montauk from the trailer for a couple of weeks while I have the trailer sandblasted and painted and replace the bunks. Also going to attempt to remove the bottom paint from the boat.

I would like to put it on blocks in my yard. (Its a southern thing) Any suggestions? I thought about rigging a lift by stringing a cable between to large trees with a lifting eye in the center and using a come-a-long. This would allow me to lift the back of the boat while I pulled the trailer slowely out from underneath. (I would put blocks under the front before completely removgeing the trailer). How would I get it back on though?

Ll.

Bigshot posted 02-20-2002 11:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Same way but I have an easier method. back the boat up to a tree and tie it to the tree. Set blocks(with wood on top) under the rear on each side. Slowly pull the trailer out when you are at the end, set up block(with wood on top) under the fron and then jack up the boat with a bottle jack. Slide trailer out and lower jack down till she rests on th eblocks(with wood on top). To get back on reverse procedure. We do this EVERY year with my 20' Hydra-Sport being it has no trailer. Try and wet the bunks so it slides easier. You may also have to readjust the rear blocks due to the stretching of the rope.
andygere posted 02-20-2002 11:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
I took my Montauk off the trailer using Bigshot's technique, with one simple change. First, slide the boat back on the trailer so the stern overhangs to rear roller about 6 inches. Before hooking the trailer to the car (but after tying the stern eyes to a tree, etc.) lower the tounge jack on the trailer to raise the stern up a bit. Fit your blocks underneath (ideally, most weight should be on the keel, with only stabilizing blocks/jackstands under the sponsons. Now, raise the tounge, and hook the trailer to your car/truck. The back of the boat will already be on blocks and will slide off the trailer easily. Also, don't use rope to attach the stern to the tree, it will stretch too much. Use a winch strap or steel cable.
Landlocked posted 02-20-2002 11:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Landlocked  Send Email to Landlocked     
Thanks guys, If the rain holds off, I'll try it this weekend.

Ll.

Tom W Clark posted 02-20-2002 11:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
The above techniques will both work well. In fact, you can just dump it on your lawn if you like, I have done this without the help of a tow vehicle. Just tilt the trailer until the stern is on the ground and manually pull the trailer out from under the boat. To reverse, just winch the trailer back under it. Piece of cake. This assumes you have rollers on your trailer as opposed to an all bunk trailer. If the latter, use Andy's or BS's technique.
Landlocked posted 02-20-2002 11:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for Landlocked  Send Email to Landlocked     
Have bunks in the rear and rollers in the front so I guess I'll have to draft a tree to help with the job.

Are there any concerns about where to place the blocks / damaging hull by having all the weight resting on so few points?

Ll.

Tom W Clark posted 02-20-2002 11:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Not really. It's only for a short period of time and the boat will not be moving (bouncing up and down, like on a trailer). Just be sure you're not point loading it too fine. You want your blocking points to spread the force over more than a few inches of the hull so the skin isn't punctured.

The best thing to use is big chunks of Styrofoam, or at least Styrofoam on top of your blocks. The Styrofoam will squish a bit and sort of self adjust to the shape of your hull

Landlocked posted 02-20-2002 11:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for Landlocked  Send Email to Landlocked     
Thanks tom,

I have some close-cell foam that will probably work fine. I had thought of building a cradle out of a doubled 2x10 cut to match the hull shape with carpet on top but sounds like that would be unnecessary effort.

Chris.

triblet posted 02-20-2002 01:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
Make sure that you are supporting the transmom.
That's the strongest, and most heaviliy loaded
part of the boat.

Chuck

jameso posted 02-20-2002 01:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for jameso  Send Email to jameso     
Support the boat with old tires,,,another southern thang.
It works,
Landlocked posted 02-20-2002 02:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Landlocked  Send Email to Landlocked     
I just happen to have a pile of old tires... imagine that. Thought I might use them to hold the mobile home roof on someday. ha ha.
dfmcintyre posted 02-20-2002 04:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
Did the same thing into a garage, but used three large closed cell foam blocks, borrowed from the dealer what sold us the 1/2 unrigged (motor on it, but nothing else) Montauk.

Don

Arch Autenreith posted 02-20-2002 04:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Arch Autenreith  Send Email to Arch Autenreith     
Landlocked.

I didn't see anyone say this. To work on the bottom I just pull out the trailer next to a tree leaving the boat on the ground.
Then I pull it up on it's side and tie it off to the tree. One side at a time of course.
Much easier to work on the bottom this way for me.
Arch

where2 posted 02-20-2002 05:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
Amusing stories of how to do this leave me remembering that my uncle dropped his 19' boat on the concrete next to his house (and himself) while using foam, concrete blocks and his floor jack. I guess I'm lucky my dad has real boat stands (the ones the marinas use) They weren't exactly cheap, but then my uncle's trip to the hospital after the boat caught him wasn't cheap either. And yes, I'm from the South, so not every southerner uses the foam blocks and tires.
Landlocked posted 02-20-2002 05:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Landlocked  Send Email to Landlocked     
Yea, that would work too but where is the challenge in using the right equipment?

I'm thinking - haybales. yea. that's it.

Ll.

Landlocked posted 02-20-2002 05:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Landlocked  Send Email to Landlocked     
Arch,

That would definately be easier as far as the bottom goes but I'd rather not remove the motor if I can help it. Did you roll yours all the way up on the side or just tilt it enough to get under and work (thus leaving motor on)?

Ll.

bc posted 02-20-2002 05:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for bc    
Landlocked,

On my 15, I used the lifting rings and borrowed my neighbors cherry picker to lift the back end, then used a come-along to lift the front end using the kids swing set. Drove trailer out from underneth, then sat down gently on the ground. Worked great. Cherry picker can also be rented.

BC from TN

Arch Autenreith posted 02-20-2002 06:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Arch Autenreith  Send Email to Arch Autenreith     
LL

I left EVERYTHING on except the gas tank. You can't pull it beyond 90 degrees because of the railings anyhow of course.
Just used a farm tractor but my car would have worked just as well.

I forgot. For the 'sling' to pull it up on it's side I tied the rope to the bow eye threaded it up through (under) the railing, around one of the verticle railings, back down through (under) the railing and to the stern lifting eye. (The rope goes under the sponson in the rear.)

I didn't want to pull for obvious reasons on the railing and I also did not want the rope to go over the railings either.

I'm a terrible explainer.

I have pictures if you want. Let me know.

Landlocked posted 02-20-2002 09:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Landlocked  Send Email to Landlocked     
Arch,

I think I can follow your directions pretty well - thanks!. We'll see how it goes this weekend. May end up just putting it up on blocks and moving it once or twice to get to all of the bottom while I'm removing the bottom paint. We'll see how my stomach feels after the stern hits the ground. Have a tilt trailer so I can experiment a little without committing.

bc - where are you at? I grew up in Morristown (Nashville now). Nice to hear there is another member from Tn.

Chris.


mattr posted 02-20-2002 09:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for mattr  Send Email to mattr     
I also heard that burning those tires after they have been used to support the boat on land is a southern thing, too :)
Landlocked posted 02-20-2002 09:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Landlocked  Send Email to Landlocked     
I can remember when burning a tire and drinking beer on the banks of cherokee lake was hard to beat in terms of a summer evenings entertainment.


I'm in the environmental business now. Go figure.

Ll.

bc posted 02-20-2002 10:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for bc    
Landlocked,

I live in Maryville about 15min from Tellico and Ft. Loudon. I like to fish both above and Douglas. Although I do work from time to time in Morristown, and drove by Cherokee a thousand times, I haven't been on the lake. Have fished the Clinch River off 25E on the boarder of Claiborne/Grainger counties for Walleyes. Before moving to Blount county in '91, I lived in Huntsville, AL and Florence, AL. And before I to became "landlocked" I lived in Charleston, SC for 13yrs. Although I don't post much, I do try to read the forums 2-4 times a week. Alot of good info here on whalers. I also frequent the hull truth (thehulltruth.com) for non-whaler topics. Good luck on getting your trailer fixed up, I was doing the same thing back in November.

BC

Landlocked posted 02-21-2002 10:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for Landlocked  Send Email to Landlocked     
BC,

I guess if you had to leave Charleston, Maryville is a pretty good place to end up. I miss the mountains - if there was work up there I'd have never left.

Drop me an e-mail sometime- perhaps we can get a rally together this summer. Recently sold my old outrage to a professor at UT - so I know there is at least one more whalerite in Tn.

As far as Cherokee goes - pretty good fishing and great scenery - just watch out for those stumps during winter draw-down. I learned the hard way.

Ll. (Chris).

bc posted 02-21-2002 09:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for bc    
Chris,

I agree on Maryville, nice place to live and apparently alot agree with us on the fact its probably doubled in size in 10yrs. Do see a couple whalers from time to time, but the ol' bass boats out number us 10000 to 1. For fishing, therre is nothing like living on the coast. Largemouth one day, flounder the next, but you don't experience the seasons like you do here. There is a lake between Nashville and Huntsville (Timsford) I here is beautiful if you haven't already tried it out. Will shoot you an email sometime.

Thanks,

Bc

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