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Dr T posted 02-20-2002 12:43 PM ET (US)   Profile for Dr T   Send Email to Dr T  
We are expecting it to be about 66 up here in the Denver Area this weekend. Any one ever used a 13 Sport as an icebreaker?
13sport posted 02-20-2002 01:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for 13sport    
Here are a couple of boats with experence!


http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/geodesy/geod1017.htm

http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/fish/fish0095.htm

hardensheetmetal posted 02-20-2002 01:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     
I once saw a large wooden Chriscraft get iced in during a late fall freeze. The owner tried to power the boat through just a skim of ice and it sliced a hole through the planking. I think the ice is a lot stronger than one would think, especially when trying to push through horizontally wrather than break through vertically.

Dan

where2 posted 02-20-2002 05:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
Latest issue of "Down East" magazine (My wife's from Maine) had details about a USCG Icebreaker: 5/8" Thick steel plate was used for the hull in the bow section with 6" I-beams on 1' spacing as stringers. (consider that for a moment, that's a 6" gap between stringers!) That's alot stronger than the fiberglass skin on a whaler! Then again, this thing tackles more than sheet ice.

I had always wondered what the hull was like on an icebreaker...

jimh posted 02-20-2002 05:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Icebreaker? Cf: http://continuouswave.com/boats/mackinaw/
DIVE 1 posted 02-20-2002 08:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for DIVE 1    
Dr T,
I would be patient and wait for the ice to thaw. A thin BW hull is no match for sharp pieces of ice even at a slow speed.
Jim
MikeG posted 02-21-2002 12:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for MikeG  Send Email to MikeG     
In one of the late 80's catalog they had a picture of 16/17 Whaler used as a marina tender. In the caption it made mention that the boat has been used for years to pull moorings and in the winter had been used as an "icebreaker". Apparently these marina guys ran the front of the boat up on the ice (presumably thin) and then jumped up and down on the bow until it broke through.

Mike

JFM posted 02-21-2002 01:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Terry, here you go. Look at this picture. Perhaps you'll change your mind. Regards, Jay
Tom W Clark posted 02-21-2002 01:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
[There was a minor error in Jay's URI post above, which Tom fixed in this post. I later edited Jay's URI so it pointed to the picture he was referencing--jimh]
JFM posted 02-21-2002 02:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
Thanks Tom! It's been one of those days.
SuburbanBoy posted 02-21-2002 04:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for SuburbanBoy  Send Email to SuburbanBoy     
If I didn't know better I'd swear that 13 sport (in the photo) [belongs to] a couple of Muskie fisherman I know. These guys will flourish in conditions that would kill most mortals. They also build up their forearms casting 1000's of times, and have "love of the game" clauses with their employers.

sub

aubv posted 02-24-2002 08:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
Dr. T,
We used a 13' whaler for icebreaking at our family owned marina on the Shrewsbury in NJ. It included driving the boat almost completely up on the ice. Then once the ice was broken we would put the bow against a piling, put the boat in gear and wash the broken ice out of the marina and under the ice in the main channel. Eventually we had to fiberglass a steel plate on the bow because we where wearing away the bow but I don't think we ever did any thing to the bottom. We also used the boat for piling/ bulkhead work. That boat took so much abuse and we never thought twice about getting on it. It didn't look pretty but it was a work boat.
jimh posted 02-24-2002 10:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
[Fixed some URIs--jimh]
Dr T posted 02-25-2002 10:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dr T  Send Email to Dr T     
I was really tempted to go out on Saturday, but then I looked at the forecast and decided not to de-winterize the boat. We woke up this morning to 4 inches of blowing snow with a bunch more expected this week.

Not very good for fishing, but if any of you want a good ski weekend, it will probably be pretty good.

Thanks for the comments. I was curious about how you would go about breaking ice in a small boat. I think the answer is "Very Carefully."

Terry

KeysWhale posted 02-25-2002 02:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for KeysWhale    
Ice Breaker, isn't that the thing on the blender to make frozen drinks?
Hoss posted 02-25-2002 05:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hoss  Send Email to Hoss     
Me to Terry, I have a 1996 17' Outrage here in Denver sure was tempted on Saturday to take it out for a while.
Dr T posted 02-27-2002 03:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dr T  Send Email to Dr T     
Given the water temp, that would have been a better prospect than the 13. The free board is a bit low. It was real tempting when the thermometer got to 67 here in Broomfield, though.

On a more sober note, the guy drowning at Boulder Reservoir this weekend is a sad cautionary tale. (Out by himself, no dead man switch, falls out of boat into 37 degree water).


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