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Alan Hiccock posted 02-26-2002 12:44 PM ET (US)   Profile for Alan Hiccock   Send Email to Alan Hiccock  
I know that this boat isnt a craft one would head out 10 miles in 3-4 ftrs. to go fishing with but sometimes it kicks up & you find yourself in those 3-4 ftrs. heading across an inlet or a big bay ect..
With the unique agressive looking hull & 2 scuppers, a bilge that can be unplugged & an auto bildge pump, this little 15 should do pretty well in some mildly snotty seas.
Any stories, tips or advice on how this boat handles a serious chop - maybe 3-4's !
I'm ready for my shakedown cruise maybe this weekend if not too cold here on long Island.
Thanks,
Alan
North Beach posted 02-26-2002 01:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for North Beach    
If you are talking about the basic older 15 classic, get ready for your teeth to be knocked out-it is useless in anything more than 1-2 feet chop, and, even then, weak. these models are not rough water boats--think lakes and rivers!
whaleryo posted 02-26-2002 01:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for whaleryo  Send Email to whaleryo     
Alan,

I've had my Sport 15 in Jones Inlet with 4+ chop and a nasty cross wind. It's a bit of a rough and wet ride but I never felt that the boat couldn't handle it. I, on the other hand, prefer much calmer conditions.

Bill

Bigshot posted 02-26-2002 02:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Not by the hair on my chiny-chin-chin would I take a 15 in 4+. It does happen and granted it won't sink but I'll guarantee you it will be the LAST time "she-who-must-be obeyed" will EVER get in that boat again. You will most likely kiss the ground when you reach your final destination.
Alan Hiccock posted 02-26-2002 02:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Alan Hiccock  Send Email to Alan Hiccock     
North Beach,
I was laughing to myself when I posted 3-4's but my question basicly is how will the boat handle that wave height if it kicks up unexpectedly. I mean these little things are overbuilt, used as tenders ect.
I bet in 2-3's @ around 10 knots with the bow up high she'd do pretty well with its twin sponson, raked transom funky design..
Heck I'm just out of 2 Carolina Skiff's , v198, & v16. You talk about hard rides.
Thanks too Whaleryo. I bet it was wet that day in Jones making your way in those 4 ftrs. or so.
I'll have to rember to bring a mouthpiece so my teeth dont get knocked out.
Alan
North Beach posted 02-26-2002 02:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for North Beach    
Alan:

One other rough water comment- if you have alot of weight in the stern (which I do with my fat can), you will think you are in an earthquake-the bow will be floppping up and down !

Can't wait for the summer!

mjd65 posted 02-26-2002 02:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for mjd65  Send Email to mjd65     
I have had my Rage out on Lake Erie in 4+ waves. I try to make it a habit if its sunny and warm with the wind coming towards shore. I always feel safe no matter the conditions in my little boat. I have been in bigger boats and not felt nearly as safe. But if you dont like to catch air or you have a back problem then I wouldn't recommend this.

I have never had to travel more than a mile or two in 4+ footers and when I have been in these conditions it is generally for fun so there is nothing loose in the boat to lose or worry about.

Lake Breeze Rage

Yes I do where Life Jacket, Lanyard and I always tell some one my float plan.

whaleryo posted 02-26-2002 02:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for whaleryo  Send Email to whaleryo     
Bigshot,

Believe me, I don't seek out conditions like that, but where I go sometimes it's unavoidable, at least for a portion of my ride. Picture a five-way intersection of waterways, one of which is the Atlantic Ocean. The other four are narrowed by bridges just before this intersection, which accelerates the tidal currents nicely. Add enough boat traffic to fill up your average Great Lake and I think you'll get the picture. I've been boating in this area for about 30 years and appreciate how the Sport 15 handles compared to other small boats I've owned.

Alan Hiccock posted 02-26-2002 03:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Alan Hiccock  Send Email to Alan Hiccock     
Seldom if ever will my 15 sport see lakes or rivers. I'm docked Jones Inlet area as is whaleryo. It's south shore long Island with a huge inshore { bayside of inlet inshore } area procted by barrier beaches from basiclly Queens to the Hamptons. The way I look @ it this 15 is ideally suited to fish & boat these waters and maybe even poke around the jettys & inlets when it's flat.
I took my v16 car skiff out J.Inlet to Long Beach to fish bass along the beaches { maybe 5 miles }& also west in Dec. one year chasing a school of lingering cows about 7 mi.
I always figured I could always just run it up the beach if things got too hairy, That boat was same weight as the Sport a rolled hull but better seating with it's center console , grab bar & wise lowback swival seat. Gunnels maybe a tad higher too on the CS.
I'm going tom try to get some footage of my 15 sport in action this summer.She should surf those breakers nicely with the crisp Yammie 7 on the stern !
thanks for the replys, Alan
Matthew posted 02-26-2002 03:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Matthew  Send Email to Matthew     
This past November I was making a run across Puget Sound on a nasty winter day, I'm sure the chop wasn't 3's and 4's but it was probably 2's+ and a pretty stiff south wind. My fishing patner is generally a talkative person, didn't say a word until we got to our fishing destination, North Vashon Island. I was thinking after we got back that afternoon the boat can take it but can the passengers.
where2 posted 02-26-2002 04:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
Out snorkeling on the Atlantic one sunny summer afternoon, wasn't paying alot of attention to the building thunderheads in the Northeast (In South Florida, there's always a thunderhead building on a summer day). Anyway, about the time my dad and I decided to pack it in was when the steady 20mph wind started blowing offshore. Between the wind and the approaching storm, that 3 mile run up the beach toward the inlet was looking like a trip to the Bahamas would be easier. Between our snorkeling reef and the inlet, the waves built to 3-4' with a very short period. The worst part was that the run up the beach was due north and the wind was blowing out of the northwest. So, there I am eating spray over the side of the hull the whole run up toward the inlet. It would have been easy, had the bimini not started to disassemble forcing me to drop back to idle while I secured it (allowing me to take a few extra waves into the hull). Upon nearing the inlet, I soon recognized that I was not the only one caught by surprise. I negotiated the inlet riding on the calm left in the wake of a 45' sport fishing boat who was running the inlet at 30mph.

I second the comments that it will get you home, but it will be a rough ride in the process.

The time I took my 15' Sport out in 12' swells from a retreating hurricane was fun (picture 12' hills 200 feet apart), but they were just like rolling hills and not rough like a 3' chop.

Bertramp posted 02-26-2002 04:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bertramp  Send Email to Bertramp     
I've had 2 different 13s and now have a 15.
Home port is Sag Harbor. I run in Gardners Bay and the Peconics on a regular basis. A tight 3-4 ft chop isn't comfortable in my 36 footer, but in it's class, I can't think of a boat better than a whaler to run in sloppy seas. But, do keep your speed reasonable !!
bc posted 02-26-2002 06:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for bc    
I had my 15' striper in 1 1/2 footers with a 15mph head wind. Compared to my sundance skiff, which is just like a carolina it did very well. Very little spray or hull slap. For a 15 foot hull, the lil boston whaler handles fine for what it was designed for.
Bigshot posted 02-27-2002 01:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
I was joking and have been in some nasty stuff in a 15'. I believe the 15 is the BEST and most smiles per dollar you can get. We used to surf mine in the atlantic. Literally drop in off a breaker, cut through the whitewash and turn around and jump the next breaker before it broke or you washed up on shore. Dangerous as hell but man i wish I had pictures.
Alan Hiccock posted 02-27-2002 01:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Alan Hiccock  Send Email to Alan Hiccock     
Bigshot, I know the feeling.. I once was working a school of bass close to the beach when a breaker was right on me with my 16 CS.
{ hey where'd that come from} I was able to turn into the wave { just} and throttle over it, I'm talking whitewater, sucker was breaking about a 4 ftr. Thats one that's stuck in my memory banks.
Thanks for all the great replys by the way.
Alan
jameso posted 02-27-2002 03:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for jameso  Send Email to jameso     
Have to agree with the consensus that the boat can take more than the passengers can, I have had my 15 in some pretty choppy stuff. A following sea (as we have discussed here many times) can leave you a bit un nerved, always wanting to look over your shoulder. I was caught off the GA coast last year, Doboy sound was rough getting back through, but with a little throtttle jockeying we made it OK. I don't want to go to sea in a 15 but if I had to the Whaler would be my choice.
Also after seeing the new 170 I wish Whaler would build a 15 with the classic hull but about 3 more inches of freeboard.
just my 03 Jim Armstrong

SuburbanBoy posted 02-27-2002 03:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for SuburbanBoy  Send Email to SuburbanBoy     
Last summer (2001) I was going from Round Lake to Lake Michigan with a boat load of young girls (4) in my 15' Striper. Towels laid out, everyone sunning etc. We were following a large cruiser out. It was difficult to see around the cruiser. As we crossed the half way mark in the channel and could first see the body of Lake Michigan, I suddenly became aware that the waves were coming straight in. They appeared to be intensified at one point in the channel, about 25' 40' away. By the time I called to the girls (3 in front, backs to the bow soaking up sun, feeling great) it was too late. Waves were breaking over the bow. Every thing was drenched. I flipped the bilge on, and my oldest daughter pulled the plugs, we goosed the 70hp Tohatsu and dumped it all out in a short time. This also brought the bow up and eliminated the water over issue. I was laughing but some of the young ladies were not. My daughter was sure I did it on purpose (not true). One girl had been the pilot in a similar situation with a 13' whaler so she winked, and was also laughing. We turned around and without further issue returned to Round Lake and Lake Charlevoix.

sub

TightPenny posted 02-27-2002 03:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for TightPenny  Send Email to TightPenny     
My 1977 Sport 15 traveleled the Barnegat Inlet many more times than I could count. If you slow down, you can handle waves without much problem. The tugboat wakes in the Arthur Kill are a different story. Darn near broke my buddies cocycx. That was what allowed the purchase of my Montauk.
Alan Hiccock posted 02-27-2002 04:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Alan Hiccock  Send Email to Alan Hiccock     
Jamieso,
I agree that a new 15 sport with some more gunnel & maybe a center console and 2" more beam and length would be ideal.
My next stop will be a Montuak or maybe an 80's style Outrage. I'm maybe a tad too old [ @ 40 }to put a bunch of hours out there on this skiff I think.
But it's my first Whaler & Yammie so it'll give me a nice taste of a quality rig that should be easy to resell. But who knows maybe I'll love this boat so much I'll keep it forever.
Might sound silly but owning a Boston Whaler even starting with a mint 15 sport such as I have is something I always knew I had to do.
It reminds me of when I was into classic Vettes & Harleys as a kid. Sort of like owning an American tradition .
God bless america!! Yee ha


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