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Taylor posted 02-26-2002 02:23 PM ET (US)   Profile for Taylor   Send Email to Taylor  
The posting for the used 2000 Standard got me thinking... what is the new Montauk package priced at $17k going to do used Montauk prices. On one hand, the very high cost of new classic montauks seems to keep the used prices high, but on the other hand, the price of a new 'Montauk' just came down. Thoughts?
Tom W Clark posted 02-26-2002 02:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     

It's not going to do much of anything to them.

Just because it's called a "Montauk" doesn't mean it's a comparable boat. The guy or gal who's looking to buy new is a completely different animal than the one who's buying used.

Those who are buying used are still there in the same numbers as before and the stock of used Montauks remains the same.

Those who would have bought a new "Classic" Montauk, i.e. a 2001 Montauk are few and far between. Whaler sold a huge number of Montauks in the 1970's and 1980's but not so many recently. Now one could argue that because the new Montauk is so much cheaper than its predecessor, it will take some potential used Montauk buyers from the demand side of the used market, but I don't think this number will be significant.

Over time, however, the stock of used "Classic" Montauks will diminish and they will become rarer, but at the same time more people will opt for the (by then) used "new" Montauk, so I think supply and demand will move together and relative value will remain the same.

Salmon Tub posted 02-26-2002 03:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Salmon Tub  Send Email to Salmon Tub     
It will not make much of a difference. The new boat is nice but we won't see that price here in Cali. The ones here will have to have a 4 stroke on them, that's a couple grand more right there. Also, this is an introductory price and won't be around once the sales start going. The new boat is nice, If I hadn't bought my whaler 2 years ago I would buy this one, it is still a nice center console, not too small not too big, and still a whaler, better than most of the other boats out there. Also, that price might stay similar in Florida, but out here, destination (shipping) charges will start to kick in soon. I will call my dealer to see what price he has for one now with a 4 stroke and so on, and if he is offering any introductory breaks.
andygere posted 02-26-2002 03:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
If you use Whaler's website as an indicator, it will have NO effect on used Montauk pricing. Why? Because outside of this forum, nobody else knows that there IS a new Montauk.
triblet posted 02-27-2002 12:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
California boats do not have to have a
4-stroke. 2-strokes are still completely
legal most places (Tahoe is the most obvious
exception) and will remain so. There are
other advantages to a 4-stroke (and I'd
probably buy one if I had to repower) but
legalities don't enter into it.


andygere posted 02-27-2002 12:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Chuck, they are legal to use, but I'm not sure conventional 2-strokes can be sold in CA anymore. It could be the dealers are just saying this to sell the higher priced motors, but that was the word I heard at the boat show last year.
SuburbanBoy posted 02-27-2002 03:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for SuburbanBoy  Send Email to SuburbanBoy     
Tohatsu will not sell two-smokes in California.


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