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specktrout posted 03-02-2002 08:45 PM ET (US)   Profile for specktrout   Send Email to specktrout  
I would like to hear from people with experience regarding the comparison of the montauk ride to other boats in its size range. Specifically boats like the blue-wave, redfin, century, etc.. which are marketed towards the bayfishing-nearshore market. I own a '89 montauk and can't be more pleased with it for fishing. In Bays, I can run in 18 inches of water, step right over the low freeboard when duck hunting and still take it 10 miles off shore into the Gulf of Mexico on days the wind blows less than 10mph. I agree the ride is pretty rough ( my friend says it takes a day or two for his kidneys to clear the blood after a bumpy trip). However, I think one would find it difficult to get that kind of versatility in any other 17 foot boat. I certainly wouldn't feel as safe taking some dinky bay boat that far out if the weather turns sour. I keep hearing people say the Montauk really pounds, but looking at the design of the other modified v-hulls (V-front and flat back) or tunnel-hulled boats out there, I find it hard to believe they really ride that much better. The montauk is NOT a full v-hull and rides accordingly, but I don't think it should be compared to one. again, I would like to hear others experience/opinions.
Dick posted 03-02-2002 08:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
In my opinion there is no other boat in the Montauk's size range that would make me switch. If I ever do step up from my Montauk (very doubtful) it will be for an Outrage.
dscew posted 03-02-2002 10:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for dscew    
Specktrout, it sounds like your friend is confusing the ride in a Montauk to that on a hard-tail Harley, which WILL make the kidneys bleed. Having ridden in both deep V 18 footers and my tri-hull Whaler, I believe any small craft is going to pound in heavy chop. The harshness will be a bit more with the Whaler, but not enough to compensate for the stability we get from the Whaler hull. And I was soaked just as much in my deep V 17 Glastron than I am in my Whaler!
Macman posted 03-02-2002 11:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Macman  Send Email to Macman     
It seems to me that it is all in the pilot's sensibilty. I spend most of my time on the ocean. The conditions are quite variable; I just go with the flow and handle the throttle accordingly. I'm with Dick...I'm sticking with the Montauk. It is perfect for my use...fishing, camping, and just messin' about.
Clark Roberts posted 03-03-2002 05:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
A lot of the Montauk's "harsh ride" reputation is due to the fwd placement of the helm (about half way fwd). Now, the farther fwd the helm, the harsher the ride and vs/versa! If you want to fiddle with helm position/tanks/console/batteries etc you can improve the ride. Try standing behind the pilot seat (while underway in choppy seas)and the smoother ride is evident. I'm rigging out a 1977 17'hull at present and am going to use the rear platform from a Newport and fashion a bench seat (a-la flats boat) accross front of platform and place a small/narrow stand-up console in front of seat... this will put the helm seat (my old butt) about 40" fwd of boats stern. I'm placing a 24gal pate tank under seat all other gear will be fwd of console... I'm not doing this for ride (although I think it will ride lots better than the std. Montauk arrangement) but to maximize space fwd of console... I'm even considering a small side console instead of the center console... decisions, decisions, decisions... blah, blah, blah... BTW, I don't think you can improve on the Montauk's layout for fishability... my custom 17 will be used for crabbing and beaching etc and will be dubbed "Conch Daddy"... Power will most likely be a 70hp Merc currently on my 15 and way too fast! happy Whalin'... Clark... Spruce Creek Navy
vdbgroup posted 03-04-2002 08:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for vdbgroup  Send Email to vdbgroup     
Clark Roberts speaks wisely...

2 things to make your Montauk more comfortable.

1) Foot cushion pad from Birdsall Marine
2) Put as much weight as possible in rear of boat this will reduce pounding in chop.

One more:

Tack the heavy stuff, so you can surf the seas, and use the throttle, more of it, to get through the chop.

The Montauk is at its Prime when "surfing" high seas.... This is a lot of fun.

Clark recommendation regarding placement of console is good idea if you want to redistribute space. I notice that the military and coast guard boats all place their consoles in the back third of boat.

Drisney posted 03-06-2002 01:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Drisney  Send Email to Drisney     
I may be out in left field...(usually am ..but the weather is nice) I was always under the impression that when people said the 17 pounded and was wet and all the other nasty things they said.....they were comparing to larger Boston Whalers. And when comparing the 17 to the 18 it is all true, but they are completely different boats.
Dave
Bigshot posted 03-06-2002 02:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
To end this debate.....go for a ride in a 17' Carolin Skiff in 3' chop and report back to us, from the emergency room.
Hoop posted 03-06-2002 02:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hoop  Send Email to Hoop     
My Montauk rides better than my previous 'Acutrack' hull Dauntless 15. I can only conclude that the longer the boat, the better the ride. Hoop
whalernut posted 03-06-2002 05:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
If people think the Montauk rides rough, come out in Lake Erie on a choppy day in my Currituck and sit on the bench seats, that`ll shake you up!!! I know it does to me, and the older hull design rides rougher than the Smirk hull, but I like the ultra stability of the original hulls, wouldn`t trade that stability for the world, I`ll take the tradeoff rough ride. Jack.

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