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Arch Autenreith posted 03-18-2002 05:29 PM ET (US)   Profile for Arch Autenreith   Send Email to Arch Autenreith  
I'm putting in amp and volt gages now. While I'm at it should I put in an hour meter?
whalerfran posted 03-18-2002 05:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalerfran    
I recommend it. As you are no doubt aware, marine engine manufacturers base their schedule of maintenance largely on hours of operation, and I have found there is no easier way to keep track.
jimh posted 03-18-2002 05:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I was thinking the same thing...

If you already have hours on an engine and then install an hour meter, it is hard to convince someone that your 1991 engine only has 15 hours on it....

On the other hand, if you buy a new engine and you have existing hour meters, no one will ever believe that you got the engine new but there were already 2,000 hours on the hour meter.

I guess the BEST time to install an hour meter is when you get an engine with zero hours on it.

But even if you are not in that situation, I think an hour meter makes sense to track your actual usage of the engine.

tabasco posted 03-18-2002 05:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for tabasco  Send Email to tabasco     
They are useless as a selling tool as no one believes you even if they are the true hours................However, there is no better way to keep track of oil changes, and other maintenance.
lhg posted 03-18-2002 05:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Arch: I think hour meters are important on a marine engine. They let you know when to perform maintenance and give you an idea of life expectancy of your engine, or possibly large repairs. Same as an odometer.

I once thought I would install ammeters on my engines. A bought two Teleflex "red line" gauges, then found out they're almost impossible to install on an outboard, and require heavy duty special wiring. The standard outboard ignition harnesses don't include a provision for this gauge. I decided not to mess with it. So I have two ammeters for sale cheap!

hughmcmillan posted 03-18-2002 06:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for hughmcmillan  Send Email to hughmcmillan     
When I bought my 13 Sport last year I had the dealer swap out the OEM tach and install a Teleflex tach/hour meter combo. It was the same size as the OEM Teleflex so the installation was very clean and I assume easy.

I found the hour meter very useful during the break-in period as I didn't have to log the actual time(s) I ran the outboard.

As a tractor owner I am used to an hour meter and I wouldn't be without one on my boat.

-Hugh

Dick posted 03-18-2002 06:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Mercury makes a neat small hour meter that installs under the engine cowl. It has a wire that is wraped around one plug wire and gets it's info that way, only when the engine is running. If you forget and leave the key on you don't add up hours.
triblet posted 03-18-2002 07:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
Absolutely you want an hour meter.

And if you have a reasonable estimate of how
many hours the engine already has, just jury
rig it to the battery for the appropriate
number of hours, then attach it to the
ignition switch.

And if you get a new engine, get a new hour
meter.


Chuck

Alan Hiccock posted 03-18-2002 07:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Alan Hiccock  Send Email to Alan Hiccock     
This might be slightly off topic.
All {if not most} outboards now have the ablilty to download data such as hours, events { specific component failures} and more through a computer program. I bet not many people do it but when buying a late model outboard wouldnt be a bad idea to pay your marine mechanic to download engine's history { hours ect.}
I bet many sellers will be suprised when you tell them you you'd like to check this out before purchasing. " I said 200 hrs... hmmm ment 800", seems all boats for sale have " low hours"
I think an hour meter has use for a selling point. I could just as easily disconnect or turn back a cars speedo I was a bad guy.
Alan

Alan Hiccock posted 03-18-2002 07:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Alan Hiccock  Send Email to Alan Hiccock     
Last line was to have read " IF " I was a bad guy!!!!
MaN !! Wheres the edit feature!!!
He He , Alan
Arch Autenreith posted 03-18-2002 08:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for Arch Autenreith  Send Email to Arch Autenreith     
Thanks, all. I be a-puttin' one in then. And I like the idea of putting one on inside the cowling. I'll have to check on that. It won't be for a selling point though. 1980 rebuilt at least once by me that I know of. Still runs fine though.

But, alas, I'm a little down as I already cut a hole for the ammeter, Larry. Now there are 3 "Teleflex" Red Line guages for sale cheap! Darn. What's that old woodworking saying again!?

Dick posted 03-18-2002 08:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Arch

"I cut twice and it's still to short"

Alan Hiccock posted 03-18-2002 08:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for Alan Hiccock  Send Email to Alan Hiccock     
Arch, I installed a digitil yamaha hour meter 3 weeks ago in my 15 BW sport.
I placed it on the right side of console facing the stern { by the controls}. I was able to run wires into connecters @ my multi function tach.
I think you can pick up an ignition wire no problem from control harness or tach.
I wouldnt put it under cowling might rattle loose and short something, makes more sense on the console, in my opinion anyways,
Alan
Chesapeake posted 03-18-2002 09:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chesapeake  Send Email to Chesapeake     
Alan:

How large a diameter is the Yamaha. I bought a new 90 last year, but I have limited dash space on the Nauset.

Bob

reelescape1 posted 03-18-2002 09:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for reelescape1  Send Email to reelescape1     
My new Yammie 225 has the hour meter built into the digital tach....it's about time they did this!!
Alan Hiccock posted 03-18-2002 09:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for Alan Hiccock  Send Email to Alan Hiccock     
Bob,Part # is 6y5-83504-11
This is the digital theres also an analog.
Ok the hole is 52.5 mm or 2-1/16 "
The meter cost me $ 103.00 + tax, Yamaha has it on thier website @ $106.00 MSRP.
Its too easy to install assuming you have the piggyback connectors on your multifunction tach, yellow green black wires connect to the piggybacks @ tach { y,gr. blk.} if you have no tach the wires are plugged into the wires coming from control's.
If for some reason theres no piggyback connecters on your tach you need a part from Yamaha called" Extenders". It's basiclly an extension wire that plugs into control box { controls} with the piggybacks on the end, in other words you can plug both hour meter & tach into the 2 connecters @ the end of the wire.
The meter works off the tach sender not just " key on " time so you only get readings when she's running, supposed to be better. It's LED reads hours & tenths & there's no light.
but it's pretty cool none the less!
Alan
Alan Hiccock posted 03-18-2002 09:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Alan Hiccock  Send Email to Alan Hiccock     
Realscape1,
That model just came out. New for this year,'02.
I think that Multi function tach is now up there around $ 350.00 from just over $ 300.00
but considering I payed over $100 for my hour meter , its worth it.
Alan
Arch Autenreith posted 03-19-2002 01:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for Arch Autenreith  Send Email to Arch Autenreith     
Thank, Alan.

It just occured to me that I remember seeing West Marine having 2 versions of hour meters; rectangular and round. Maybe the round is the same size as for the hole I cut for the ammeter. The hole may have been cut for naught. It's the unexpected little surprises in life I like!

Dick. Great saying. Lol.

Bigshot posted 03-19-2002 09:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Rule of thumb....get one on E-Bay cheap. West etc gets crazy $$$ for them and being 1 screw up will destroy the guage. Please do not spend more than $35.

Took my RudeSuzi into dealer for 20(29.8) hour checkup and they ran the computer....33 total hours, cool. I come back from Nj and pick it up and it now has 137hours, idiot left the key on. I assume the main computer will not register those 104 hours which by the way is how long it takes to drain a battery DEAD.

I always run them so I know how much bang I am getting for my buck. Nobody really knows how much they use a boat unless you have one. No need to install on dash, can be under it, etc. I did mine because I already had a hole from my Yamaha key.

Round guages are the standard 2 1/16 or so size.

Chesapeake posted 03-19-2002 10:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chesapeake  Send Email to Chesapeake     
Thanks Alan and Bigs. Looks like I was just a few months too soon. Would have been nice to have it in the multifunction tach.

Bob

reelescape1 posted 03-19-2002 03:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for reelescape1  Send Email to reelescape1     
I have a plain jane one I'll let go for $30 cash. If you're interested e-mail me and I'll get the particulars. reelescape1@yahoo.com

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