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Drisney posted 03-25-2002 12:45 AM ET (US)   Profile for Drisney   Send Email to Drisney  
I searched and did not find a thread on this. Other than the obvious ; you can fold one up. Is there an advantage of one over the other. Specifically it will be on a Revenge V-22 non walkthrough. I get skin cancer on my face so plan on having shade available pretty much all the time. With either one I plan to have side curtains and windshields available to install. Any thoughts ? What am I not considering ? Thanks, Dave
lhg posted 03-25-2002 12:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Since your boat is a Revenge, it sounds like you mean "hard top" rather than the tee tops which apply to center console boats.

I would not think one of these would look particularly great on a 22 Revenge, and would go with ONLY Mills canvas. This will probably be less money than custom hardtop work and curtains, and keep your Whaler looking "All Whaler". I have seen your boat with this system (caddis has one) and it looks great.

KeysNole posted 03-25-2002 01:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for KeysNole  Send Email to KeysNole     
Drisney, if you can afford a hard top (up to $2500) and don't have to worry about bridge clearance, go for it. Having an electronics box, outrigger and antenna station, spreader lights, and rocket launcher all in one is worth more than you'll ever realize.

Like you say, with a hard top you can also put down the all weather curtains and stay dry (won't happen with a bimini).

Russ posted 03-25-2002 03:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for Russ  Send Email to Russ     
Drisney,

I have a 22' Revenge, too, and I am also interested in a hardtop. It has the full Mills canvas, but I like the idea of having a solid platform for a radar, a high antenna mount, and, of course, rocket launchers. Also it's rainy and foggy where the boat will be used, and the canvas is old. There's a picture of a hardtop on a 22'Revenge, on p.46 of Cetacea, that belongs to Steve Warrens. It looks pretty good to me. So, I'd like to know more about hardtops, too. I'm concerned about their weight, as well as expense. Let's hope that some useful information is forthcoming.

Westender

Drisney posted 03-25-2002 08:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Drisney  Send Email to Drisney     
Russ,,that top on page 46 is what got me thinking about a "hard" top. It is a very good looking setup ! I do however like being able to take things down for trailering . So I appreciate the opinions...thanks all. And I will continue to daydream while I save my pennies! Thanks, Dave
jimh posted 03-25-2002 08:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Revenge owner here, too.

Yes, that top on Steve Warren's 22-Revenge is good looking. (Cf. http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage46.html#46-2 )

But it is not really a hard top.

If you look closely you'll see that it is a canvas top, and the frame is built as a combination radar arch and bimini top frame. It looks like a very nice way to go.

The only drawback would be the problem of trailering it at high speeds and long distances.

I have the Mills flying top (thanks to many very generous website fans) and, when we are going to haul the boat on the highway, we lower the canvas top completely and remove it. The top just fits in the floor of the cockpit, where it rides nicely out of the wind.

I consider it a win-win situation, because I lower my wind resistance by removing the canvas and frame, and I increase the life of the canvas by not flogging it at 65-MPH for hours and hours on the highway.

I might wear out (or lose) the special SS screws to mount it in the hinges, and I have a few minutes of rigging to do when I get to the ramp after a 500-mile haul. But these are minor inconveniences to my mind compared with hauling all that frame and canvas down the highway.

I bet we hauled 3,000 miles last season at over 55-MPH. Imagine how much wear that is on your canvas if you cannot take it down easily.

--jimh

Drisney posted 03-26-2002 01:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for Drisney  Send Email to Drisney     
Jimh...I am laughing here...I was corrected for calling it a "T" top--I thought that was it's closest cousin! I put "Hard" top in quotation cause I know it isn't hard....lol What is it called?!?!....anyway thanks for your comment I totally agree about reducing wind resistance even to the point of taking the windsheild off my 17' when hauling long distance.
Dave
jimh posted 03-26-2002 08:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I do like the style of that top, even if you can't take it down for trailering.

The canvas top saves weight aloft, which reduces the roll moment on the boat hull.

The fixed frame provide a support for accessories like navigation lamps, radio antennas, rod holders, and cockpit lights that you generally cannot mount to a bimini top frame. That is a big plus.

Steve Warren's boat was from the Carolinas, and I have seen another boat from that region with a very similr top. Someone must be sewing and rigging that style of canvas and frame down there.

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