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humboldt jim posted 03-25-2002 01:38 PM ET (US)   Profile for humboldt jim   Send Email to humboldt jim  
While previous posts were helpful, I am still undecided what new trailer to purchase for my 22 ft. Outrage and 225 Optimax. I need a beefy saltwater tough trailer. So far I researched Shorelandr galvanized, Carny? i.e.,Calkins) galvanized, EZ Loader Galvanized, and Caravan aluminum. The Caravan aluminum @$3500 sounds like a good deal over the Shorelandr galvanized @$5500. But is it going to last as long as a double dip galvanized? I want this trailer to hold up for long hauls and tough conditions. Any sound advice would be greatly appreciated!


kingfish posted 03-25-2002 03:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Jim-

Aluminum trailers are really nice, at least the ones I've seen. Things you want: disc brakes both axles, keel rollers or a way to install them in conjunction with bunks, support under the transom, and if you think you might ever use a weight-distributing hitch, be sure the pole tongue has a depth of 5" (4" will deflect too much).

I have a galvanized EZ Loader under my Outrage 22 that was born as a bunk trailer. I added two more cross members and shifted the bunks (and the boat) forward about 15" so the transom was over the rear cross member +/-, so I had rollers under the transom as well as bunks. I've got two 12" poly rollers on each cross member for a total of 8 keel rollers, plus an 8" roller about 25% of the way up the bow rise.

If I had the opportunity to do it from scratch, I'd have a Continental trailer built just for keel rollers, like Larry Goltz (lhg) has for his 25.

kingfish

Jerry Townsend posted 03-25-2002 04:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
During previous discussions regarding bunks/rollers and when John (Kingfish)was modifying his trailer, I started thinking (that gets me in trouble) of instead of using rollers, to make up a good, solid (out of say 2 laminated 2x12s with 2x2 equal leg angle iron on the bottom corners for rigidity) carpeted bunk and mount directly under the keel. The main advantage - uniform loading of a significant length of the keel. Uniform loading of the keel is more important on the heavier boats. Disadvantages - having to periodically spray the bunk keel carpet with silicone. The keel bunk could be mounted to be easily adjustable via the 2x2 angle sections - whereas, when I look at pictures of the keel rollers, I do not see an adjustment device incorporated. Cost wise - probably compariable as the better 12 inch rollers are not necessarily cheap. But, cost is immaterial - it is the better support of the boat that is controlling.

I will crawl under my all bunk Shoreland'r trailer and will consider incorporating this keel bunk idea - when we get rid of some snow and ice.

Just a thought - any comments? ---- Jerry/Idaho

humboldt jim posted 03-25-2002 04:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for humboldt jim  Send Email to humboldt jim     
I called Continental and they don't deliver out of state. Here in extreme northern Calif. my options are limited. If anyone has recommendations in the Portland to Bay Area region, please advise, thx.
dfmcintyre posted 03-25-2002 06:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
Check

www.eagletrailers.com

I've been very satisified with my Eagle galvanized double axle trailer. Quad bunked with spare tire.

don

aubv posted 03-25-2002 07:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
What about Load Rite?

http://www.loadrite.com/

vdbgroup posted 03-25-2002 07:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for vdbgroup  Send Email to vdbgroup     
Steelco Inc dba Sportsman Trailer in Santa Fe, TX (Galveston TX area) for superb galvanized trailer. They are the most reliable on the Texas Gulf Coast. They claim to be the first company in the US to mfg. galvanized boat trailers.

Loadmaster Trailers for aluminum in Tampa FL.

I suggest torsion axles and bunks instead of all roller configuration.

Price has to be less than $3K.


jimh posted 03-25-2002 08:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
[Changed TOPIC; was something (much longer)--jimh/Moderator]

A nice west coast trailer brand is PACIFIC TRAILERS. They make a very rugged trailer and it can be rigged with keel rollers.

(I have one that started life as an all-bunk and is now a hybrid keel roller/bunk trailer.)

The owner of PACIFIC told me they build them for the terrible roads of Baja Mexico. That design paradigm works well for the terrible roads of SE Michigan.

--jimh

Rageboat posted 03-26-2002 10:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rageboat  Send Email to Rageboat     
I have an aluminum I-beam Loadrite bunk trailer (float-on type) under my 23 Outrage 1999. Works very well. Only thing I changed was added a heavier front keel bracket as I bent the original one unloading the first launch from new. Now perfect!
PMUCCIOLO posted 03-28-2002 03:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    
Jim,

I'd appreciate it if you were to keep us informed as to your quest for a trailer. I am in the process of buying a CPD boat (either a 22' Guardian or a 24' Justice) and your input on this issue would be valuable.

Thanks,
Paul

whaler22 posted 03-29-2002 11:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for whaler22  Send Email to whaler22     
Hi Jim,
I too live in the NW and boating trailers are hard to come by. I'm looking for a trailer for my Revenge V22. I've looked into custom trailers by Baker Trailers in Eugene OR. Nice but pricey. I went southern California and shopped around and I agree with Jim H, I'm favoring a Pacific Trailer. The Whaler dealer I talked with said he could call in my paricular boat and they would make it to fit my hull. The Pacific Trailers are very heavy duty. The appox retail price he quoted was $3600.00 for my Revenge.
I'll keep you informed as I learn more about where to find one closer to home. LA is a LONG DRIVE from Klamath Falls, OR.
David
Guts posted 03-30-2002 12:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for Guts  Send Email to Guts     
go with jimh advice the pacific trailer is a very good product. the galvanizing is heavy on the ones that I have seen. A very well built trailer.this may be a west coat thing?
Guts
aubv posted 03-30-2002 07:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
fwiw,

I have been quoted 3k for Loadrite trailer with brakes and fresh water flush. This is a 5800 lb cap bunk trailer with keel rollers for a 2001 23' OR.

I would be interested to hear any comments.

Brian

humboldt jim posted 04-02-2002 11:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for humboldt jim  Send Email to humboldt jim     
After giving it lots of thought and research I decided on a custom, all-aluminum/stainless steel trailer from Tropic Trailers in Fort Meyers FL. Includes aluminum mag wheels, stainless steel disc brakes, rated to 7K lbs. Cost of the trailer shipped/delivered to Northern Cal., $4600. I figured the money made from selling my old one will help defer the cost.
tflyer posted 04-02-2002 12:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for tflyer  Send Email to tflyer     
Jim: Did you end up going with the Rolls Marine unit?....Tom
humboldt jim posted 04-02-2002 04:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for humboldt jim  Send Email to humboldt jim     
Tom

The trailer is a Performance Model AAL 200-22T from Tropic Trailer. It has a keel roller on the forward cross beam. I went with the all stainless/aluminum upgrade, kodiak disk brakes, and torsion axle package.

Thanks again for your help.

jimh posted 04-02-2002 08:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
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