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MikeS posted 03-28-2002 12:11 PM ET (US)   Profile for MikeS   Send Email to MikeS  
Dear all, just had to share my happiness. After breaking my leg last summer, I sold my 22 Revenge as I've always wanted a 25. Yesterday I closed the deal on a (new to me) 25 Revenge. I couldn't be happier. Its a custom one that was gel-coated in white at the factory and will be a great place for me to start setting it up the way I want. I'm happy to be a Whaler owner again!

If anyone is looking for a 25 Revenge, I've looked at most of the ones for sale in the north east, and I'd be happy to share my findings. It might save someone a long drive, as I drove around a lot and saw a lot of crappy Whalers.

Mike Smith

gf posted 03-28-2002 12:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for gf  Send Email to gf     

Glad to hear Mike.

You may recall that we exchanged emails in late 2000 when you were first selling your 22.

I guess the fella from Brunswick that bought it last year ended up parting it out.

David Ratusnik posted 03-28-2002 01:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
Mike- When you get the time it would be nice to hear about your travels looking over these Whalers. How many did you look at? What condition were they in? What sort of ask prices did you encounter? Any other items that might interest folks looking for a Whaler. I learned from my experience looking for my 22' OR that the key was to Travel, Travel, Travel. When you run into the right boat, YOU KNOW IT. Congrats and Good Luck.. David
hardensheetmetal posted 03-28-2002 03:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     

We also spoke last year, and I think that I sent the fellow who bought your boat to you after I sold my 22 (your's was nicer). Good luck with the 25.


Ray posted 03-28-2002 09:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ray  Send Email to Ray     
Congrats. I bought a 25 Revenge last year and absolutely love it.. It is an '85 and excellent for fishing Lk. Michigan.. Hope for the very best for you.
Maine whaler posted 03-29-2002 04:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for Maine whaler  Send Email to Maine whaler     
I looked at a 22 revenge and it was too small. Is the 25 a significantly bigger boat? Did you buy one of the ones on yachtworld or
k joseph posted 03-30-2002 03:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for k joseph  Send Email to k joseph     
that fellow from maine is me!! and i did not "part out" anything..almost put a deal together, but upon further investigation found i would never be able to replace this fine whaler when it gets down to dollar for dollar.

hardensheetmetal posted 03-30-2002 05:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     

Sorry, did mean any disrespect regarding your name, I just couldn't remember. Glad your keeping the boat, it looked to be a nice one, and I really liked the fact that it had twins.


k joseph posted 03-31-2002 05:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for k joseph  Send Email to k joseph     
dan, that last comment of mine was not made to imply anthing other than a note that i could not part with the boat (must have been just after happy hour) kevin..
MikeS posted 04-01-2002 08:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for MikeS  Send Email to MikeS     
Thanks for all the kind words guys! I've got some work to do on the "new" boat to get it the way I want it, but should all be fun.

I loved my 22, but I always wanted a 25. Don't they call that "3 foot disease" or something?

Anyway, I looked at 3 other 25s. One in Marshfield MA with Twin Yamahas for 19K that was really beat up. Cosmetics were crap, No idea of motor condition though as the cosmetics turned me away. No trailer, no extras.

The other was a great condition hull and interior in southern CT for 25K, although they said I could likely buy it for 19K. The hull was great, down below was great and the cockpit was OK, used but serviceable (some sun damage and a few rips). My hesiatation came from the somewhat neglected looking Johnson 140s. I used to work for a guy that owned the same engines and he put on new powerheads twice with only limited recreational use, so that turned me off. Again, no trailer.

Trailer is a biggie for me as I do my own work and winter storage, so I have to add some big bukcs for a trailer to these other boats.

Ended up with a NC boat that has never been left in salt water. Twin japanese engines that still have 3 years on the warranty and it has a trailer and a lot of extras. Sorry to say I had o plunk down 24K for the package, but without having the worry of re-powering anytime soon, and not having any concern of Whaler "sponge" hull from hidden damage and water logging the hull. I went for it.

Now I gotta drive to NC this weekend and bring it back. That is the only bummer.

I agree, when the "right" one comes around you know it. Soon as I spent about 10 minutes talking to the guy and saw the pictures I knew it ws "the one".

Thanks all!
Mike Smith

David Ratusnik posted 04-01-2002 08:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
Mike- Great story and I suppose of some assistance to others looking for the RIGHT BOAT. Hey, enjoy the trip to and from NC to get that boat. I still remember the good time had picking up my boat from Pompano Beach. A trip to remember. A neighbor (and another Whaler nut) and I took my truck down together since I had never trailered a boat. Trip back was a ball, still talk about it. Take you time--enjoy. Over the 3 hours I had to have received 6-8 thumbs ups etc. LOVE IT. David
k joseph posted 04-01-2002 11:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for k joseph  Send Email to k joseph     
hey mike!! those gosh darn johnsons..ever see one on fire? (just kidding) a month after i bought your rig the port motor blew it's lid. don't fret..all is well anyhow..and i still think we had a fair deal..if you would like to spend the day on your old rig just give me a shout, you can take her out anytime you want.
PMUCCIOLO posted 04-02-2002 03:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    

Congratulations on your purchase! I would like to know if you trailer the boats. If so, would you let me know what brand and style of trailer you used for the 22 (and now the 25)?


MikeS posted 04-03-2002 11:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for MikeS  Send Email to MikeS     
Yes, I trailered the 22 and will trailer the 25. Usually only back and forth for the season ( a few miles). They are heavy as hell, but a good tandem axle trailer with brakes works OK. From NC to ME will be a hell of a trip, but I have a good tow rig (Ford F350 diesel) so I'll be OK.

Sorry to hear about the old Johnson 115. In the Fall of 2000 I had the heads looked at and they (local Johnson dealer) did about 700. worth of work to make them as good as possible, but they did say that any outboard that is 16 years old may be on the way out. No one knew the hours as I was not the original owner. As of mid-summer 2001 they were both still doing great. I actually used the boat quite a bit before I broke my leg on the motorcycle in mid-July 2001.

Sorry to hear about that. Did you re-power it or do a new powerhead?

Other than one wound up lobster trap they never did let me down. Guess it was a matter of time though.

I'm off to NC on Friday morning.

If you don't hear back from me by Monday will somebody look for me on the side of the road!!!??? :-)

MikeS posted 04-08-2002 07:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for MikeS  Send Email to MikeS     
Just to finish off this thread...

I made it back from NC on Sunday. Trip went smoothly, not a hic-up.

The Whaler was better than I expected. Hull is like new, and outboards look about 6 months old (and run perfectly). Wiring. teak and details need some work, but that was expected. It looks great gel-coated in White... I wasn't sure how that was going to look in person, but it works. Its going to be a great season. I'm happy to be a Whaler Owner again, having not been without one since the age of 11. (now 36)

I read an email from somene ticked off about a purchase they tried to make where the guy sold a Whaler out form under him. I have to say that my guy, Steve Williams in NC, was upfront and honest. I sent him a 10% deposit that was refundable if I didn't like the boat and he held it for 2 weeks for me to find time to get from ME to NC. He did everything right, so don't despare. There are good Whaler sellers out there!

He's looking for a 31 foot Whaler with twin diesel power. I think they only made 4 or 5 of those, so that will be a long search.

Thanks all!

Mike Smith

Maine whaler posted 04-08-2002 10:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Maine whaler  Send Email to Maine whaler     
Congrats on the new boat!!! Is the 25 cockpit a lot bigger than the 22 you had? Looked at a 22 at Wayfarer but just too small for my needs. I have yet to see a 25 revenge in person.
GAwhale posted 04-08-2002 10:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for GAwhale  Send Email to GAwhale     
Congrats Mike! Great story.

Back in 1974-1975 my parents kept their sailboat in Camden, Maine. I never really appreciated it as a kid. What I wouldn't do to spend summers there now.

Morocco posted 04-09-2002 02:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for Morocco  Send Email to Morocco     
Mike --

Your deal went just like it should, and it DOES give me hope.

Congrats. I'm still looking for my perfect Revenge WT. It's gotta be out there somewhere.

MikeS posted 04-10-2002 01:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for MikeS  Send Email to MikeS     
Thanks all,
Yes, the 25 is bigger than the 22. In the 25 there is room for 2 cooler seats as well as the rear counch and it doesn't feel crowded like the 22 did. It basically feels like the same boat but bigger (no duh, right). I ran a 25 Revenge for many years for summer people here in Camden, and I fell in love with them, but until my income allowed I had to wait to get my own. Now the 25s in good shape, with good engines are tough to find, and I hate the Conquets,and couldn't pay 100K for a boat even if I did love them. Trust me if I had a choice I would not have driven to NC to get a boat. You'll need to serach high and low. ;-)

The guy I bought from had a list of people waiting to buy if I backed out, my timing was right and he was a good guy, otherwise I'd still be looking.

If you are in at Wayfarer they have a 25 Revenge out back, actualy that is the one I used to run. It has a green hull, or you can stop by and check mine out anytime you are in the area. It'll be at my Rover shop on Rt. 90 soon.

Have fun and thanks for all the support guys!!

Hope to see you on the water!

Maine whaler posted 04-11-2002 07:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for Maine whaler  Send Email to Maine whaler     
Thanks for the offer. It will be a few weeks until I get down that way. By the way, love the rover website. I have driven by your shop for years and wondered what went on their. was on of your vehicles featured on PBS awhile ago on a trail ride?

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